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don't turn away any longer

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and now your host the captain of

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conspiracy

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the prince of paranormal

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bespoke radio for the masses

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god put this on the earth for us

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so we could be free

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how you doing fade to black

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fade to black everybody listening across

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monday march 9th

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kgra in the house

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so excited

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big salute to the proud men and women in

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uniform all around the world fighting

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the good fight for us

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for without them there is no me

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there is no you there is no us and you

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cannot hear me right now

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you got a complaint

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on fade to black linda moulton howe will

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all the breaking

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hey did you guys check out the fader

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everybody go check those out

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faders.org become a fader become a fade

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or not every single day i start the show

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i'm in twitter i'm hanging out by the

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way follow us on twitter at j church

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radio come on over hang out in the

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sandbox that's what you want to do

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we're going to have a new what do we do

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are we hashtagging twice i didn't even

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does he have a feed over there

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onslaught does he have any clue

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everybody that's over in the speaker

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sandbox 2 by the way hello everybody

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and i'll jump in at the break and come

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say hello over there

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uh where am i studio dome sdm1 tweeters

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yes are tweeters did i just say tweeters

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go right now you gotta get one of these

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promo code jimmy

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is all you gotta do that's for the fader

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and i got to tell you you'll never hear

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the show the same way again or anything

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that for that matter that you listen to

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your iphone your ipad your laptop

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amazing speaker just go over to

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link it's right there all right

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tonight linda moulton howe i'm so fired

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up she's going to be a contact in the

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desert may 29th through the 31st out in

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joshua tree

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get yourself some

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free passes all you got to do is enter

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the contest go to jimmyturtradio.com

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click go and enter we're going to draw

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five more names this thursday

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fader night slash bob davis night

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because we're gonna do the same thing

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everybody we're gonna bring in

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everybody last year we had uh

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uh we're gonna do everything that we can

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we'll probably have 12 or 14 guests on

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the show we're gonna broadcast live

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there's gonna be two or three hundred

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wanna be one of them i wanna meet

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everybody

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and you can't win unless you enter the

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contest so just go to

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jimmychurchradio.com

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click on the link for contest in the

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contact in the desert it'll take you

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over to the landing page right there

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it'll say jimmy church you'll know

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you're at the right spot just go and do

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it get it done because i want to call

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your name last week uh who won last week

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it was eric james beth the lap status

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unknown by the way one last week chuck

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those were the five winners from last

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week they're going to contact in the

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desert and i know you want to go too

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okay

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go and enter

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and nothing makes me happier than when i

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get an email what i won

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i can't believe it really yes yes okay

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and the only way i can feel good about

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that is if you enter and i call your

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next week or this thursday all right

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tonight linda milton howe tomorrow night

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nick pope by the way

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earth files uh tomorrow night nick pope

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night very excited and then

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twofer it'll be fader night slash robert

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week uh here man last night whoa

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buff perry got emailed today from a

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uh documentary last night yeah i did the

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so there you go all right follow us on

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twitter at j church radio

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email

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jimmy at jimmy church radio throughout

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the show you got to pierce the veil of

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good you can uh do jimmy jimmy

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churchradio.com you can also go over to

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uh the website go to the contact page

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and email us through there where we use

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non-nsa specially encrypted servers and

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i'm serious we do i think i'm pretty

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if you have any questions tonight for

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that's the column

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is the new channel going to be

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just came in from michael anderson see

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right there hashtag f2bq michael

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to be nothing is changing

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as far as everything that is in place

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everything stays the same the times the

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nothing changes okay uh and i am so

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about kgra uh talking to race today and

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and making plans and and getting i you

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know the family that's over there

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if you think about it you know and we're

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make room

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that's what it is

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and i i'm just so excited i can't wait

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for uh monday night

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and uh and and and kgra so there you go

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nothing changes uh we

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we'll uh get that out tomorrow

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and uh we were gonna do it today but you

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know it we had a busy day today

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but uh yeah now kgra

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like it or not they're broadcasting now

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from

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contact in the desert how cool is that

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just uh i'm just so fired up i'm sitting

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out of my lin lewis elvis coffee mug i

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stopped doing it because

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i didn't want to damage it it's such a

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cool mug

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but uh just to show you how uh how good

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you gotta love it um last night i wanted

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that uh or it was a sunday night sunday

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night we had a friend's over at cassidy

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church

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and you know how it is you know all that

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stuff gets posted on facebook and you

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know i lose control and i can't help it

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but i just want to you know share at the

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but there on the table

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if you look really close

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are the space boy

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they're right there on the table and i

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was gonna do it i was gonna i thought no

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it just sends the wrong message

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that

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all the time but anyway if you look

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really close you'll see

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those uh space boy shot glasses all

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right uh call a number tonight with

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linda if we can get around to it it's

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gonna be a busy night but i know

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everybody wants to chat with linda

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three two three eight two five fifty

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forty five you can also skype in

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fade to black 14. now for all of the

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listeners that are new to the show today

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every day there's you know there's a few

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hundred more a few hundred

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every single day i get that i do

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this is an open-ended conversation long

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form conversation show

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you're going to come in tonight you're

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going to hang out you're going to

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snuggle up to your speakers you're going

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to drink what you drink

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you're going to smoke which you smoke

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and you're going to listen

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and and you're going to learn

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and what you're going to participate in

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whether it's through twitter

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over at spreaker or one of the chat

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rooms that's going on right now for fade

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to black you're gonna hang out uh with

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people that uh think just like you

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and you're gonna see pictures you're

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gonna go through this and imagine that

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and it's a real-time interactive show

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and you're just going to

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get sucked in

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just like

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years gone past

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with all of those late night radio shows

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those smoky deep dark late night radio

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shows that's what goes on here

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tonight with linda moulton howe it's

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gonna be exactly that

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last night with buff perry

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wow

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and that's what i enjoyed growing up

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and that's what we do here so for all of

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you new listeners just get comfortable

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this isn't some zany show with sound

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effects and all no this is this is

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intelligence trying to happen

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all right i'm your host jimmy church

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this is fade to black on the game

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changer network and i'll say it again

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monday march 9th

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kgra in the house

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so fired up so excited big things going

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on

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premiere now it's april 1st

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so we'll get that this month too a bunch

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of stuff is going on

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in real time

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i hope you're along for the ride i'm

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your host jimmy church this is faded

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black tonight linda moulton howe

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tomorrow night nick pope

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thursday night fader night slash

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dr

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robert davis

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i'll be back right after this do not

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you're listening to jimmy church fade to

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what's up revolutionaries it's me jimmy

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church

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do you have an irs or state tax issue

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well i did and i called national tax

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experts my problems were fixed done for

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me and man i gotta tell you it was a

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relief

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national tax experts are recognized tax

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office that services clients in all 50

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states doesn't matter where you live

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give them a call i'm telling you they

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take the time to understand each and

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every client's individual financial

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status as well as their financial goals

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and that's exactly what you need my

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brother when you're taking on the evil

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three letter so seriously give them a

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again 1-877-909-5444

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or go check out their website dub dub

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dub

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nattacksexperts.com that's n-a-t-t-a-x

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x p e r t s

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dot com tell them jimmy sent you

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this is kjhcr

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all right welcome back fade to black

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this

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host jimmy church tonight linda moulton

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howe

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should be with us at the bottom of the

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hour tomorrow night nick pope

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thursday it's a twofer

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fader night slash dr robert davis will

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be with us

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all right let's do it let's get cracking

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let's get to the news that you know

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except for this has been all over the

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news today shocking

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a russian lawyer for edward snowden said

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today

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the fugitive former u.s spy agency

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contractor who leaked details of the

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government's mass surveillance programs

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was working with american and german

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lawyers

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to return home

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oh yeah

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anatoly kucharina i'm not making that up

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kucharina

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who has links to the kremlin was

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speaking at a news conference to present

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a book he has written about his client

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and moscow granted snowden asylum in

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2013

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straining already tense ties with

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washington i'm wondering about this and

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there's always another story behind the

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story you gotta peel back that layer

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and he was quoted as saying today i

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won't keep it secret that he wants to

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return back home

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and we are doing everything possible now

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to solve this issue there is a group of

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u.s lawyers there is also a group of

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german lawyers and i'm dealing with it

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on the russian side the united states

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wants snowden to stand trial for leaking

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extensive secrets of electronic

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surveillance programs by the national

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security agency and russia has

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repeatedly refused to extradite him

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snowden has said in the past he would

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like to return home if he was assured he

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would be given a fair trial

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i'm just suspecting

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i my vibe

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it's just not that good over there

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it ain't that good

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how bad is it

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if you want to get out

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and go

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go back to the united states and face a

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federal trial

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for that for that stuff i mean how bad

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is it

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you can only eat so much borscht i'm

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telling you red or white

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hot or cold new revelations about

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earthquake dangers have shaken the

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future of california's diablo canyon

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nukes

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in a rare move

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washington dc's federal u.s court of

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appeals will hear a landmark challenge

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to their continued operation

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that's right the suit says diablo's

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owners

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illegally conspired with the nuclear

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regulatory commission the nrc

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to weaken

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seismic standards

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no no joke

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now

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uh

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this is a big victory says damon mauglin

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from friends of the earth the public has

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a right to know that the nuclear

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regulatory commission and pacific gas

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and electric won't admit hundreds of

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thousands of people are put at immediate

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risk by earthquake dangers at diablo

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canyon diablo is vulnerable on state and

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federal water quality regulations

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economic concerns and more citizen

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active activism has also shut operating

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reactors at humboldt rancho seco and san

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onofre

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now i'm telling you right now i used to

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drive by san onofre

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oh at least twice maybe four times a

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week on the way to san diego and coming

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back and you're just that and

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coming off of earthquakes and and

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and others things here what i mean by

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that is

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uh when i say other things aftershocks

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it's just a constant thing that goes on

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here in southern california and you look

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at these

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uh nuclear plants and you just know

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a bad thing could happen at at the drop

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of a hat

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this is not the state

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any state really to have nuclear plants

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you can't there's a fault that runs over

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under everything

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california's two remaining reactors

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there's only two left are surrounded by

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more than a dozen

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dozen seismic fault lines the shoreline

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fault runs within six to seven hundred

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yards of the diablo cores

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this is no joke

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now

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uh

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it's 45 miles from the san andreas fault

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now think about that for a second we

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just don't need it

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shut it down

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end of story

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ufo hunter street cap one

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claims he has detected in a recent uh

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lasco c3 photo a massive ufo with an

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intricate articulated design near our

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sun

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the photograph was captured by the soho

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satellite and halo orbit around the sun

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earth l1 gravitational balance point

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from where it transmits back to earth a

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continuous stream

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of near real-time data about solar

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activity used to predict space weather

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now the alleged video of the ufo it's

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not an alleged video the alleged uh ufo

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in the video it's about the size of the

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moon

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and you have to look at it it looks like

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uh

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something out of star wars

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it's it it's got things on it it doesn't

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it doesn't look like

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an asteroid

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you have to see it the video is crazy

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street cap one go check them out on

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youtube amazing video the department of

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homeland security

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won't run out of money

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anytime soon the house cleared

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legislation today that will keep the

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agency operating through the end of

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september after a standoff last week

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threatened to shutter the agency and

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furlough thousands of workers the

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257-167 vote sends the bill to president

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barack obama for his signature

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republican house speaker john boehner

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who rarely casts votes

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backed the bill along with his top

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lieutenants a majority of the house

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republicans did oppose the bill just 75

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gop lawmakers joined with 182 democrats

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kai i'm not going to comment hey dude

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did everybody are you guys checking out

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why would hillary clinton

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use a private email

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while working for the government why i

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you know i

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i held off

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doing that news story today because it

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smell it's a big bowl of wrong

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a big steaming heaping bowl

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of wrong

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now we have to go back and chase down

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and ask for

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the

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to be straight with how does that work

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is that even legal

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i'm just saying anyway moving on has the

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white city of the monkey god been found

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after 500 years a team hunting for the

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legendary lost city of ciudad blanca in

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the honduras has made a dramatic

568
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discovery of untouched ruins deep in the

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jungle that are thought to be thousands

570
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of years old

571
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this is according to national geographic

572
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nat geo one of my favorite channels

573
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researchers believe the complex of

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plazas mounds a pyramid and dozens of

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artifacts belong to a civilization

576
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:46,640
which was booming thousands of years ago

577
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,279
and then vanished without a trace

578
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,919
it prompts the tantalizing possibility

579
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that we have found the law civilization

580
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:55,279
known as

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the white

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city

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which has been the subject of local

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rumors among tribes people and spanish

585
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,840
explorers

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forever

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some people call it the white city of

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gold after ancient texts described ivory

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temples filled with treasure and western

590
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,640
explorers first made reference to it

591
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from conquistador hernando cortes to

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king charles v of spain as far back as

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1526.

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since then

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countless researchers and adventurers

596
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:29,279
have gone to the honduras looking for

597
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this it's all overgrown the jungle has

598
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overtaken everything and it just reminds

599
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me of like indiana jones i want to go i

600
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i really do

601
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but that jungle

602
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will defeat you

603
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trust me

604
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,039
but they can't it can't defeat a

605
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,880
satellite and that's exactly what has

606
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:47,919
happened

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one such adventurer uh even suggested

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that the city was in fact known as the

609
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white city of the monkey god and saw an

610
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ancient civilization warship a giant

611
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simian deity symbolized by a large

612
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statue

613
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this is exciting stuff

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ah

615
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,400
check this out

616
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where's where's my studio clock i got a

617
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,840
little time i'm gonna squeeze the rest

618
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,440
of this in yes

619
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:15,120
chocolate cake

620
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:16,880
helped capture

621
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,159
mexico's most wanted drug lord this is

622
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,679
one of those things you talk about you

623
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:23,600
just can't make it up when authorities

624
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:25,679
finally caught up last week with

625
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,840
cervando gomez martinez aka la tuta

626
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:32,400
the top surviving leader of the knights

627
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templar

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cartel

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and the country's most wanted fugitive

630
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:39,120
they got him

631
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,480
with chocolate cake that's right

632
00:26:46,110 --> 00:26:44,880
that was the dessert that his girlfriend

633
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:46,120
maria

634
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:49,919
antonieta luna avalos delivered to his

635
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:53,200
hideout in the colonial town of morelia

636
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,080
on february 6th which happened to be his

637
00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:59,520
49th birthday when authorities observed

638
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:01,679
that errand coupled with some shoddy

639
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,720
spycraft by his hand-picked messenger

640
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,559
a federal police team was able to

641
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,559
capture him in the pre-dawn hours of

642
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:09,600
friday

643
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,640
without firing a shot

644
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:14,559
chocolate cake

645
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,520
yeah

646
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:17,760
it'll work on me too

647
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:22,159
that uh volcano volcano cake oklahoma

648
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:23,760
would become the first state to allow

649
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,279
the execution of death row inmates using

650
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:29,919
nitrogen gas

651
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:33,600
the house voted in oklahoma 85 to 10 for

652
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,159
the bill by the oklahoma city republican

653
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,559
representative mike christian who began

654
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,559
studying alternative methods after a

655
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,960
botched lethal injection in the spring

656
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:44,960
that led the u.s supreme court to

657
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:47,360
consider the constitutionality of

658
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:50,880
oklahoma's current three drug method

659
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:52,640
christians said numerous studies have

660
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:56,159
been conducted a nitrogen hypoxia which

661
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,080
is similar to what pilots at high

662
00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,080
altitudes can encounter when oxygen

663
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,159
supplies diminish he described the

664
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,640
method as humane

665
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:06,080
painless

666
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,600
and easy

667
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,600
to administer

668
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,200
a department of civil rights

669
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:13,520
investigation

670
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,120
has concluded that check that

671
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:19,039
these are stats

672
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,310
they have concluded that the ferguson

673
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:25,760
police department and the city's

674
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:28,880
municipal court engaged in a pattern and

675
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,039
practice of discrimination against

676
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,080
african americans targeting them for

677
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,880
traffic stops use of force and jail

678
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,640
sentences according to a u.s law

679
00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:40,159
enforcement official briefed on the

680
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,440
investigation

681
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:43,840
tomorrow everything is released the

682
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,159
probe is a result of an investigation

683
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:48,240
ordered by attorney general eric holder

684
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:49,679
after the police shooting that killed

685
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,240
michael brown last summer among the

686
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:54,640
findings and i hope you're sitting down

687
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:58,720
from 2012 to 2014 85

688
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,360
of the people subject to vehicle stops

689
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:03,120
by ferguson police

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00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:06,240
were african-american 85

691
00:29:11,470 --> 00:29:09,919
90 of those who received citations were

692
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:11,480
african-american

693
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,840
93 percent of the people arrested

694
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:17,600
were black

695
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:20,159
this while 67 percent of the ferguson

696
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,000
population is african-american and 88 of

697
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,000
the cases which the ferguson police

698
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,399
reported using force it was again

699
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,399
against african americans

700
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,360
during the period of 2012 to 2014 black

701
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:35,360
drivers were twice as likely as white

702
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:37,919
drivers to be searched during traffic

703
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:40,960
stops but 26 percent less likely to be

704
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,159
found in possession of contraband

705
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:46,799
blacks were more likely to be cited for

706
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:50,159
minor infractions 95 of the tickets

707
00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:50,960
for

708
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,840
jaywalking

709
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,480
95

710
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:56,880
of the tickets for jaywalkings were

711
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:00,480
against african americans also 94 of all

712
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:02,960
failure to comply charges were filed

713
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:05,279
against black people

714
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,520
that my friends is wrong

715
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,120
that's all i'm going to say

716
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,120
workers digging underneath a paris

717
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:14,960
supermarket have made an unsettling

718
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:18,559
discovery they found 200 skeletons the

719
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,200
grocery store called monoprix

720
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:23,760
was doing some renovations in january

721
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:26,000
and workers were removing an underground

722
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,919
wall and discovered the bones

723
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:29,600
researchers and archaeologists are

724
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,240
conducting carbon dating and dna testing

725
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:34,240
and it turns out it's uh

726
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:36,159
they're guessing it's from a hospital of

727
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:37,679
the trinity

728
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,240
that operated from the 12th century to

729
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:42,640
around the 17th century

730
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,320
archaeologists working at the site have

731
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:46,880
found eight common graves in an area

732
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:49,360
which is 100 square meters with seven of

733
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:52,080
the graves containing between five and

734
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:53,200
20

735
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:56,960
skeletons each and another grave

736
00:31:02,310 --> 00:30:59,120
150

737
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:02,320
skeletons the grouping suggests the

738
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:04,799
facilities

739
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,640
were using it to bury families together

740
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,000
and that's it

741
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:11,760
that's all the news you know nothing

742
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:14,000
about this is fade to black

743
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:15,919
on the game changer network monday march

744
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:18,559
9th kgra i'm telling you it's all good

745
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,679
in the hood

746
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:20,960
i'm your host jimmy church when i come

747
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:24,000
back after the break linda moulton howe

748
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,279
will be with us

749
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:27,120
do not touch that mouse i'll be right

750
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:59,029
my name is nick

751
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:00,880
hi i'm rex dominguez and i listen to

752
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:03,039
jimmychurchradio.com

753
00:32:08,909 --> 00:32:06,559
jimmy your preacher hey man this is toby

754
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:08,919
kebbel you're listening to

755
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,600
jimmychurchradio.com don't hurt me jimmy

756
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,240
i'm only little hey i'm adrian grenier

757
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:16,080
and this is ari gold we're the honey

758
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:22,950
hey i'm adrian grenier and i'm ari gold

759
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,559
we're the honey brothers

760
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:26,880
and you're listening to jimmy church a

761
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:38,230
despite popular opinion

762
00:33:05,669 --> 00:32:42,640
reading a book will not make you smarter

763
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:07,509
all right everybody welcome back fade to

764
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,399
black bespoke radio for the masses i'm

765
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,880
your host jimmy church tonight

766
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:15,120
linda molten howe

767
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:16,559
will be joining us if you have any

768
00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:19,440
questions for myself or linda

769
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,519
just follow us on twitter at j church

770
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:24,480
radio hashtag f2bq

771
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:26,080
plug it in right there there's already

772
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,760
uh oh look at that there's a couple

773
00:33:30,990 --> 00:33:29,840
lined up and ready to go you can shoot

774
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:31,000
me an email to jimmy

775
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:32,720
jimmychurchradio.com you can also go

776
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,919
over to

777
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,240
uh the website and send us something

778
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:38,399
direct there just make it good

779
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:39,919
make it smart

780
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,960
make it for linda and pierce the veil of

781
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,559
the producers here you will be

782
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:47,200
successful and then i'll read it on the

783
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,399
air and i am so fired up we have linda

784
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,240
right here in the batter's box linda

785
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,120
molten howe is an emmy award-winning tv

786
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,120
producer investigative reporter and

787
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,360
author who goes directly to the men and

788
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:01,279
women at the forefront of science and

789
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,279
environmental challenges and to

790
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:05,120
first-hand eyewitnesses of high

791
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,919
strangeness miss howe has received local

792
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:09,839
national and international awards

793
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:12,560
including three regional emmys and a

794
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:15,200
national emmy nomination linda has

795
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,440
traveled throughout the united states

796
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:20,639
canada brazil england norway egypt

797
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:24,399
ethiopia kenya australia japan peru

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00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,960
venezuela switzerland france sweden the

799
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:28,879
netherlands germany italy turkey

800
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:32,000
yugoslavia mexico and the yucatan

801
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:34,720
and soon in in may

802
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,200
back to joshua tree she has been

803
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:39,440
interviewed for larry king live uh

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00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,240
special about area 51 day and date cbs

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00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,560
strange universe fox

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00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,040
nbc's the other side montel williams

807
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,200
britain's union pictures and the

808
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:51,040
learning channel and for nbc's the

809
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,000
mysterious origins of man linda

810
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,240
continues to write produce and speak at

811
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,480
national and international conferences

812
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:00,560
including contact in the desert this may

813
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,200
out in joshua tree california and her

814
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:06,000
very own earthfiles.com

815
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,680
is one of the true true true treasures

816
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:11,920
of the internet i would like to welcome

817
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:14,480
back our good friend

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00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:15,359
young

819
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,400
little

820
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:19,520
linda mullen how how are you linda

821
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:22,240
thank you jimmy church

822
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,560
man oh man i had to take like four extra

823
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:29,829
well it is nice to be back

824
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:32,560
with you on fade to black and it is

825
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:36,320
especially an important time because on

826
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:39,599
february 22nd i had been keeping an

827
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,640
embargoed story until that day

828
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,640
and it was in collaboration

829
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:47,520
with john burroughs and his attorney pat

830
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:49,040
frisconia

831
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:52,480
and i had been reporting for a very long

832
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:53,440
time

833
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:57,040
about the efforts of john burroughs

834
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,720
just trying to get medical coverage from

835
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:03,040
his military background

836
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,160
and we have uh reported over and over

837
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,880
all of the blocks including the united

838
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:11,200
states veterans administration

839
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:13,839
telling him telling pat frisconia the

840
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:14,960
attorney

841
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:19,760
that his medical records from 79 to 82

842
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,920
in raf bedwater's woodbridge were

843
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:24,560
classified

844
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:28,800
no details and no release and suddenly

845
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:32,480
in january of this year 2015 for the

846
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:34,320
very first time

847
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,960
they had a breakthrough it was a notice

848
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:38,400
that the us

849
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:41,440
veterans administration was going to now

850
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,400
grant

851
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:44,160
john burroughs

852
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,079
full medical benefits for injury in the

853
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:50,000
line of duty

854
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:52,800
at raf bentwater's woodbridge december

855
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:55,920
26th and 28 1980

856
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,520
and i reported this at birth files in a

857
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:01,440
two-part report

858
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,560
that i called implications of john

859
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:07,280
burroughs full va medical coverage from

860
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:11,280
injury caused by what the uk says

861
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:14,400
unidentified aerial phenomena and they

862
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:17,760
use the acronym uap instead of the way

863
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,520
north america uses ufos right and that

864
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,599
it was directly

865
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:24,640
linked

866
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:27,280
uh by inference that we can talk about

867
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:28,400
tonight

868
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,079
to radiation

869
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,000
from a uap

870
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:34,400
at raf that waters woodbridge december

871
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:38,320
1980 well those two parts went out with

872
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,440
excerpts from a highly classified

873
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,640
document

874
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,960
interviews with john and pat about all

875
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:46,800
of this and

876
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:49,520
this was the story was picked up by the

877
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,480
herald tribune in florida

878
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,200
just about three days ago and what is

879
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,920
interesting they did a headline that

880
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:58,880
said

881
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:01,280
did the you did the va

882
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,280
just admit ufos are dangerous question

883
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:07,680
mark and then today

884
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:11,520
march 3rd the uk mirror headlined in

885
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,880
great britain

886
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,119
and i have it right in front of me read

887
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:17,280
it read it to me read it to me

888
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:19,839
yeah here is the headline from the

889
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:23,680
mirror and that's mainstream uk media

890
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,560
british ufo encounter quote

891
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:29,440
gave me heart failure close quote says

892
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:32,400
u.s airmen after military chiefs agreed

893
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,200
to pay his medical bills so what jimmy

894
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:39,839
is behind all of this

895
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:41,839
we have to go back

896
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,640
to

897
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,640
2011

898
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:47,520
and that was the year that john began

899
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:48,560
suffering

900
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,680
it was called atrial fibrillation that's

901
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,760
when the heart goes into irregular

902
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:55,920
heartbeats and it can quiver

903
00:39:02,950 --> 00:38:59,680
uh if you don't get a handle on afib as

904
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,960
it's also known you can get blood clots

905
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,880
you can have strokes you can get heart

906
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:06,160
failure

907
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,440
you basically are headed into serious

908
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,680
heart disease right

909
00:39:16,270 --> 00:39:13,440
that's when

910
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:16,280
john burroughs having for

911
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,920
33 34 years by then

912
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:21,599
knew that he had

913
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:23,839
had two encounters

914
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,960
with lights in england and what is so

915
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:28,480
interesting is

916
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,359
that john has never ever been able to

917
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:33,520
recall the details it has been the

918
00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:36,960
people outside the military people

919
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:37,839
uh

920
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:43,200
waters woodbridge was nato's largest

921
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,320
base

922
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:46,800
in europe in 1980

923
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:50,160
and we now know that there were nukes on

924
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:53,920
both sides underground on the woodbridge

925
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:56,960
side and the bentwater side so the

926
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:00,160
reason i bring that up is the security

927
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:05,040
on that base was huge and it was intense

928
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:06,160
and when

929
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,200
lights

930
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,760
started being reported from what is

931
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:11,680
called the east gate

932
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,720
on the night of december 26 that around

933
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:16,640
midnight

934
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:19,920
the call went out to the central

935
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,680
security command about these lights

936
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:26,400
and there was a discussion about what to

937
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:27,520
do

938
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,960
and without going into a lot of details

939
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:32,000
tonight

940
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:33,200
we'll just

941
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,480
boil it down to three men

942
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:38,480
became the team

943
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:39,680
and that was

944
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:42,960
staff sergeant jim penniston he was the

945
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,000
senior

946
00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:47,200
and he was very experienced with going

947
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,320
out to airplane crashes always carried a

948
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:52,640
notebook he was known for that he would

949
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,920
make drawings he would do details on

950
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,319
airplane crashes so

951
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:00,560
that's who was leading this team the

952
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,839
next two

953
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:02,800
were

954
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:06,079
john burroughs then young of an airman

955
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:07,440
first class

956
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,640
and an airman at cabansack

957
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:12,560
and those three

958
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:13,520
are

959
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:14,319
under

960
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:17,440
uh a command decision that they are to

961
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:20,560
leave the raf badwaters woodbridge

962
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:21,440
base

963
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:24,079
and that they are to go into randall

964
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:27,200
forest which parallels along where the

965
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:29,119
big base was

966
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,640
and that's where the lights were being

967
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,480
reported they were being called and

968
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,480
compared to things like christmas tree

969
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,119
lights meaning they were yellow and red

970
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:39,760
and blue and green

971
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,640
and

972
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:43,200
this was a decision that the military

973
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:45,200
had to make because

974
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:48,480
rendelsham is civilian uk

975
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:50,319
it is not under

976
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,480
either you the us or the british yeah

977
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,560
it's on the other side of the fence

978
00:42:02,390 --> 00:41:59,119
and this is important because that means

979
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,400
military have to make a decision

980
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,119
about whether they are going to risk a

981
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:08,240
problem on civilian land

982
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,920
so these three

983
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:11,359
take off

984
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:14,319
they are in a pickup truck

985
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:17,920
uh they get to a part of the forest

986
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:20,160
they stop the truck

987
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:23,119
john burroughs and jim penniston

988
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:25,920
jim peniston decides to leave ed

989
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:29,200
kavansak the youngest at the truck

990
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,720
and he and john burroughs start off in

991
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,119
randall sham forest and we were there

992
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:37,599
with the ancient aliens production in

993
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,280
december of 2010 on the anniversary of

994
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:43,680
this uh phenomena

995
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:46,800
and i can tell you being in that forest

996
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,760
at night and in broad sunlight

997
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,079
that even after that hurricane came

998
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:54,480
through after 1980

999
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:56,960
it is back it is a big

1000
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:01,520
thick tall forest and the idea as both

1001
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:03,920
jim and john have always said

1002
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:06,720
that anything could be moving rapidly

1003
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:09,839
through that those thick thick very

1004
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:12,560
close together tall trees

1005
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,359
have always amazed them but that's what

1006
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,200
started happening and when we were there

1007
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:19,839
with the ancient aliens production

1008
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,240
uh jim and john started

1009
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,880
to show us how they were moving through

1010
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,640
the forest that night

1011
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:28,160
they were running

1012
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:31,599
and there were burns a berm is where the

1013
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,160
ground comes up and goes down and up and

1014
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:35,680
down in cross

1015
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,720
and they are running and falling and

1016
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:41,280
running and falling it was a very

1017
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:44,880
adrenaline rushing scene

1018
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:46,000
when

1019
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:49,359
and this is the the part

1020
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,720
jim peniston says there was a blinding

1021
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:55,280
white flash of light

1022
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,440
and that out of the flash of light

1023
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,440
appeared this black

1024
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,720
glassy

1025
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,960
object that appeared to either be

1026
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,040
floating on light

1027
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:07,680
he didn't he was not clear

1028
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:10,800
but he that's the object that jim

1029
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:13,839
peniston he took out his notebook he

1030
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:16,640
walked around this thing about nine feet

1031
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,520
long glassy black with red and blue and

1032
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:24,319
other colored lights moving under the

1033
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:27,359
surface of it like it was alive

1034
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,680
and when he got around to the front

1035
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,240
right of the vertex of this black

1036
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,400
triangular shaped object

1037
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:36,720
there were raised symbols he thought of

1038
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,839
braille as he dragged his fingers along

1039
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:41,119
the surface

1040
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,079
and he could feel the raised symbols

1041
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,160
that he didn't understand but he said

1042
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,240
the whole craft

1043
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:50,560
seemed to be slightly warmer than the

1044
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:52,640
cold december air

1045
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,119
and he's having this experience

1046
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,359
and this is also where he had the

1047
00:45:03,349 --> 00:44:59,760
download of zeros and ones in his head

1048
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,359
the binary code that nobody knew about

1049
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:05,280
until again we were doing the ancient

1050
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,319
aliens production in arizona in 2010

1051
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:10,240
before the english trip

1052
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:11,280
and

1053
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,520
that in the context of what was

1054
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,240
happening around this black glassy

1055
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:27,520
object

1056
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,079
this was occurring in his head and he

1057
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:32,480
was also getting some kind of

1058
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:35,680
communication that whatever was behind

1059
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:36,800
all of this

1060
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,200
were time travelers and we can we can

1061
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,520
push that subject off for a while

1062
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,800
because

1063
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,640
all this time

1064
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,560
jim peniston

1065
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:48,400
has no idea what happened to john

1066
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:51,920
burroughs right right is no recall

1067
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,839
whatsoever and yet

1068
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:56,720
he was the staff sergeant he's the

1069
00:46:02,390 --> 00:45:59,520
senior it's a military mission out into

1070
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,400
the civilian ground

1071
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,960
jim went into his we'll call his

1072
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,560
experience

1073
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:09,040
john burroughs remembers

1074
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:10,880
things like

1075
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:13,920
white light but he doesn't remember

1076
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,160
anything about what happened to him in

1077
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,480
the details in the forest but jump now

1078
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:21,359
out to central security command right

1079
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:23,839
they were radioing

1080
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:26,800
uh through the whole decision at the

1081
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:29,680
east gate to send this

1082
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:33,599
trio in onto the civilian ground

1083
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,920
and they had been having successful

1084
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,920
radio communication

1085
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,200
until

1086
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,960
the three get out into randall

1087
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:42,640
randallstrom forest

1088
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,839
and then there was a 45

1089
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:48,720
minute loss of communication

1090
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:51,040
that's on the record books

1091
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,760
and out of that december 26th event

1092
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,280
later on

1093
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,839
for reasons that are still not exactly

1094
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,880
clear

1095
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,240
there was

1096
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:05,040
i would put it in the rumor category

1097
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,760
that one of the men john burroughs and

1098
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,720
this was the phrase that was used

1099
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:12,400
jumped up

1100
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:15,280
on a flying saucer in the woods

1101
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,680
john doesn't have any memory but i'm

1102
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,280
setting the scene

1103
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:21,359
that that was one of the so-called

1104
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,640
rumors on the base back then

1105
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:26,800
and ed kavansak

1106
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,599
has

1107
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:29,280
uh basically

1108
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:32,240
has said he doesn't want to comment uh

1109
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,960
so

1110
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,960
we don't know we're concentrating on

1111
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:37,680
john burroughs tonight right

1112
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:38,720
and

1113
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:42,640
that was exposure number one

1114
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:45,280
exposure number two to john burroughs

1115
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:46,319
comes

1116
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,520
two nights later on december 28th

1117
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,079
that's the famous audio that the deputy

1118
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:55,119
base commander colonel charles halt went

1119
00:48:02,550 --> 00:47:58,560
with uh more than a dozen men out into

1120
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:02,560
the area of to the same site area where

1121
00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:05,920
there had been tripod marks left on the

1122
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:08,319
26th in the ground

1123
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:11,599
uh there was uh above background some

1124
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:14,400
radiation that was measured in the area

1125
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,680
around the embedded tripod marks in the

1126
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,200
forest floor

1127
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:21,760
so now on the 28th

1128
00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:23,040
more lights

1129
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:26,319
beams coming down colonel halt has uh

1130
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,520
told me

1131
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:30,800
in an interview about when a beam came

1132
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,640
down within three feet of his shoes

1133
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,160
in the forest

1134
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,640
he felt that that was some kind of an

1135
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:39,760
aggression

1136
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,359
you you can't

1137
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,160
say exactly that it was hostile but it

1138
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,040
was so close it scared him and he

1139
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:49,359
considered it some form of aggression

1140
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:50,240
right

1141
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:51,280
so

1142
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:54,559
and that night all of that recording all

1143
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,359
of those men out with geiger counters

1144
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,920
lightholes for light uh there was some

1145
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:01,680
testimony that there might have been

1146
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:04,960
some cameras uh but

1147
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:07,839
it leads up that john burroughs is back

1148
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:10,559
out there again on his own volition he

1149
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:13,920
was not on duty that night he felt drawn

1150
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:16,480
back he wanted to go

1151
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,079
and when he arrived not on mission

1152
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,000
charles hall the colonel

1153
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,800
apparently they had some dialogue about

1154
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:26,720
the fact that john burroughs

1155
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:29,119
wanted to get close to where these

1156
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:31,920
lights were again and they let him

1157
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:35,280
but going along on john burroughs right

1158
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:36,480
side

1159
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,720
was a man a sergeant adrian bustinza

1160
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,440
and adrian bastinda walking to the right

1161
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:45,440
of john burroughs toward

1162
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:49,440
more light uh out there in the field

1163
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:52,720
uh it's adrian bestinza's testimony that

1164
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:55,760
suddenly red orange blue lights

1165
00:50:02,870 --> 00:49:59,359
uh came down and engulfed i believe was

1166
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:02,880
the word in uh transcripts years ago

1167
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:06,640
engulfed john burroughs in this light

1168
00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:09,520
and what is so also so interesting is

1169
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,920
that adrian

1170
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,559
these are words that he has used in the

1171
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:16,480
past

1172
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,160
the lights

1173
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,200
pushed me to the ground

1174
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:24,160
now that is a very interesting sentence

1175
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:26,880
adrian doesn't really try to explain it

1176
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:28,319
except that he

1177
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:29,920
knew that he was going down to the

1178
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,559
ground he didn't think he tripped he

1179
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,800
think he was he thinks he was forced to

1180
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:36,240
the ground

1181
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:39,920
but he's looking up as he goes down and

1182
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:42,640
says john burroughs was engulfed

1183
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,839
by this red orange light that would be

1184
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,400
exposure number two

1185
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,880
john burroughs to this day has no

1186
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:53,200
details about what happened in either of

1187
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:54,640
those nights

1188
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:55,680
but

1189
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:58,720
this goes right to the heart of what is

1190
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,280
in many ways i think one of the biggest

1191
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:04,079
breakthroughs i know his uh attorney pat

1192
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:05,839
frasconia when they put out the press

1193
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:08,400
release he was emphasizing that this is

1194
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,160
the first time on record that a u s

1195
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,440
department

1196
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,760
the veterans administration is under the

1197
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:17,599
department of defense

1198
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,359
so this means that this is a statement

1199
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:23,040
of benefits

1200
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:26,319
to a man injured in the line of duty

1201
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:30,800
december 26 and 28 1980 that line of

1202
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,000
duty was to go into rendelsham forest to

1203
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:37,280
try to identify these colored lights

1204
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:40,640
all of this phenomena ensues

1205
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:44,640
and it was not long after december

1206
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:47,359
28 that second encounter for john

1207
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,480
burroughs

1208
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:50,720
he did not feel good

1209
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:52,240
they never did

1210
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,520
any thorough medical examination of john

1211
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:57,200
burroughs then

1212
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:59,359
it was about a year later

1213
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,319
and they've

1214
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:02,960
doctors someplace else found a heart

1215
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,559
murmur

1216
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,079
now john

1217
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,160
would never have been in the u.s air

1218
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,480
force and passed all those physicals

1219
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:12,240
they put if he had had a heart murmur

1220
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,520
that's right

1221
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,119
the heart murmur

1222
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:16,720
was definitely

1223
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:20,720
something post the exposures plus

1224
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,160
he started having problems with his eyes

1225
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:26,960
others that were there and were involved

1226
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:29,920
in that third night uh have had problems

1227
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:30,839
with their

1228
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,280
eyes and

1229
00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:36,720
so now that we're now into that period

1230
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:37,839
of time

1231
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:40,480
when john was officially

1232
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:41,680
a us

1233
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:45,599
airman in nato's largest air base uh

1234
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,240
collaboration between the uk the us

1235
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:50,000
where there were nuclear missiles

1236
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:52,960
underground on both sides of the base

1237
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:57,040
this phenomena occurs over 72 hours many

1238
00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:59,440
many people were involved we are really

1239
00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:01,760
just touching on highlights to set the

1240
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:03,200
stage

1241
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,240
that

1242
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,400
you jump to

1243
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,079
the 20

1244
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:09,680
uh 11

1245
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,240
when he starts having really serious

1246
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,680
heart problems and when he goes to the

1247
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,760
veterans administration

1248
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:19,119
to request

1249
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,839
medical disability because the doctors

1250
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,520
are telling him he's going to have to

1251
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:25,760
have open heart surgery

1252
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:29,200
and he is told that his

1253
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,760
records are classified

1254
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:33,839
and that said in motion

1255
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:36,720
john burroughs first getting uh senator

1256
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:40,079
john kyle of arizona who retired

1257
00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:41,200
and then

1258
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:44,319
uh senator kyle said uh let's get

1259
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:47,359
senator john mccain's office to help

1260
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:50,319
and senator john mccain's staff began

1261
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:51,760
working on this

1262
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:52,720
and

1263
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:53,839
when

1264
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,559
that for

1265
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:58,240
more than a year

1266
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:01,359
senator john mccain's office has really

1267
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:04,319
tried hard to get those critical medical

1268
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:08,079
records for john burroughs from 79 to 82

1269
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:11,520
raf that waters and as of this date as

1270
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,119
we are speaking on march 3rd 2015

1271
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,640
even with the granting of medical

1272
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:19,760
benefits

1273
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:23,839
for injury in the line of duty

1274
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:27,520
and that was in context of exposure to a

1275
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:31,359
quote unidentified aerial phenomena that

1276
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,920
radiated a specific kind of radiation

1277
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,760
we'll talk about

1278
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:37,119
he still

1279
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:39,520
does not have his medical records

1280
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:43,359
because they are still classified

1281
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,480
and the question is what is in

1282
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:49,520
those medical records of john burroughs

1283
00:54:54,790 --> 00:54:51,839
that our government has drawn a line in

1284
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:54,800
the sand that nobody used to see

1285
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:58,319
well the the whole other part of all of

1286
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:59,119
this

1287
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:00,640
breakthrough

1288
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:01,520
is

1289
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,040
that in 2006

1290
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,119
for the first time

1291
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,319
a project con dyne report is four

1292
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:13,359
hundred and sixty pages long

1293
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:16,720
it had been classified top secret uk

1294
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:19,440
restricted

1295
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,920
it gets quietly

1296
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:23,359
released

1297
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:26,160
from its strict uh

1298
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,119
classification

1299
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:31,599
a lot none of us knew about that

1300
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:37,349
but

1301
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:40,000
nick pope working in england

1302
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,359
john burroughs

1303
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,520
i pat frisconia

1304
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,680
working in the united states and all of

1305
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:47,520
these different facets

1306
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:51,680
we become aware of this project condyme

1307
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:54,480
and for listeners who want to see some

1308
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:57,040
of the critical pages that tie directly

1309
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:58,319
to all of this

1310
00:56:02,549 --> 00:55:59,920
and are the first

1311
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:02,559
words that we have seen that

1312
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:04,000
specifically

1313
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:04,960
say

1314
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,839
that

1315
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,839
and use the terms

1316
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:08,799
of

1317
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:12,240
our raf bandwaters woodbridge in project

1318
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:13,440
condyne

1319
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:18,160
as being a relationship of radiation

1320
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:23,040
from uat's unidentified aerial craft

1321
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:24,559
in which

1322
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:27,200
it can do damage to

1323
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,319
bodies

1324
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:30,880
and it can manipulate minds that's what

1325
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:33,680
it says and i have these pages

1326
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:36,160
at earthfiles.com

1327
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:39,359
listeners can go to february 27th

1328
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,160
2015 parts one and two

1329
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:44,079
all about everything that we're talking

1330
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:47,359
about and you can see with your own eyes

1331
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:50,880
these extremely important pages

1332
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:55,040
and one of them includes a document

1333
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:03,910
it's from what is called di55

1334
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:07,280
that is an agency in the uk ministry of

1335
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:09,040
defense and

1336
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,599
jimmy here is the date on what i'm going

1337
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,760
to read a sentence to you from

1338
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,280
february

1339
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:17,440
23rd

1340
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:24,630
really a month after okay exactly

1341
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:27,920
exactly we're going all the way back

1342
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,240
all of the denials over all of the

1343
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:32,640
decades that there was nothing to this

1344
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:35,200
there was no defense significance that

1345
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,559
it was all what was it for a long time

1346
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,480
somebody encounter intelligence was

1347
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,240
pushing the lighthouse yeah the

1348
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:44,640
lighthouse yes yes when we were there

1349
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,119
with ancient aliens we went right to one

1350
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,000
spot and we were looking at and trying

1351
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,880
to videotape that lighthouse that very

1352
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:54,720
same lighthouse

1353
00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:57,920
and for people who have heard that

1354
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,000
thrown out for uh two or three decades

1355
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:04,799
it is like the tiniest

1356
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:07,599
needle point of light

1357
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:10,799
yeah i mean the idea that anybody ever

1358
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,119
and you know how people encounter intel

1359
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:15,119
get away with those kinds of mudding

1360
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:16,960
waters sure because

1361
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:19,520
we don't have the ability to go over to

1362
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,160
england and do a reality check right

1363
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:24,880
right and and depending upon

1364
00:58:30,349 --> 00:58:27,920
what tv shows with what biases

1365
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,359
over the years reinforced a

1366
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,720
counterintelligence point of view they

1367
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,960
would make that look like a larger light

1368
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,960
and i'm can tell you from our first hand

1369
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,280
experience it was no large light with a

1370
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:41,680
tiny tiny light it could never have

1371
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,119
explained anything so now what did you

1372
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:47,440
immediately linda i just have to ask

1373
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:49,920
jimmy church style you just checked that

1374
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:53,359
right off the list didn't you you you

1375
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:57,359
you drew you did that that was awful

1376
00:59:01,990 --> 00:59:00,079
we wanted to know right so

1377
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:02,000
yeah we went there

1378
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,400
to that spot with the express idea that

1379
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:06,240
while we were working in the television

1380
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,200
section that we would find uh

1381
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:11,680
and see and try to videotape if there

1382
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:14,559
was any kind of a lighthouse out there

1383
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:17,280
that would make any kind of a dent

1384
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:20,880
on uh the idea that it could be a

1385
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:23,920
lighthouse and it's so preposterous that

1386
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,240
it makes you understand how

1387
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:28,640
so much of this uh

1388
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:31,520
over the years that we are being given

1389
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:34,799
counter intel deflection so much of the

1390
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,839
time

1391
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:37,280
now

1392
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:40,799
i have project condy in what is called

1393
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:42,400
annex

1394
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:43,520
f

1395
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:48,720
let me tell you

1396
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:51,680
but i have printed out the whole annex f

1397
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:55,200
and here is the important sentence

1398
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:57,680
it's actually in a many paragraphs but

1399
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,960
here is what was written in this uk

1400
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:02,400
restricted

1401
01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:05,200
highly classified document related

1402
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:07,280
directly to everything we're talking

1403
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:09,839
about it says quote

1404
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,000
the well-reported rendelsharm forest

1405
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:14,240
bentwaters event

1406
01:00:18,309 --> 01:00:16,079
is an example

1407
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:18,319
where it might be postulated that

1408
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:22,880
several observers were probably exposed

1409
01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:25,599
to uap radiation

1410
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:30,079
for longer than normal uap citing

1411
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:31,440
periods

1412
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:33,040
close quote

1413
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:34,079
and

1414
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:41,440
written like that means that they have

1415
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:44,720
an entire database

1416
01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:47,440
related to quote-unquote

1417
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:56,309
i mean what else can what else can it

1418
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,280
mean

1419
01:01:03,670 --> 01:00:59,520
you know you you read that and it

1420
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:03,680
doesn't say anything but what it says

1421
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,400
when you read this whole document i have

1422
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:07,839
the hot links

1423
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:10,000
inside of the earth files i've tried to

1424
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:12,640
make it as easy as possible because it's

1425
01:01:18,309 --> 01:01:15,520
extremely difficult if you go to the uk

1426
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,319
archives but if you go to earth files

1427
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:20,640
you go to these reports everything is

1428
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:24,799
hot linked right to the entire uh all of

1429
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:26,960
the related segments that make up the

1430
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:30,799
460 pages and this annex f is in frank

1431
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:33,119
is i've highlighted it so that you click

1432
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,160
on that it'll take you right to annex f

1433
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:38,799
it is definitely worth the effort and

1434
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:40,799
the read we're talking scientific

1435
01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:42,319
document we're not talking about

1436
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:45,440
something written for public consumption

1437
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:47,920
very very important now

1438
01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:50,480
let's just oh well let me let me let me

1439
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:52,760
jump in for the audience if you go to

1440
01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:55,200
jimmychurchradio.com go to the home page

1441
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:57,359
scroll down you'll see linda's picture

1442
01:02:02,069 --> 01:01:59,200
and then you'll see uh

1443
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,079
her earthfiles.com

1444
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:04,079
little animated banner right there next

1445
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:05,680
to her just click on that it'll take you

1446
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:06,960
straight over

1447
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,440
um and it's it's easy enough to find

1448
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:11,520
earthfiles.com okay i'm sorry about that

1449
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:12,480
linda

1450
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:14,240
that's all right because

1451
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:17,280
now we're we've just scratched the

1452
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:20,160
surface on project con dying related to

1453
01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:23,119
uap radiation and the link to john

1454
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:24,480
burroughs heart

1455
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:27,680
damage and the va benefits

1456
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:30,640
in the line of duty in rendelsham forest

1457
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:32,400
that are related directly to the

1458
01:02:37,030 --> 01:02:35,200
exposure to the uap

1459
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:37,040
and now

1460
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:39,839
let's go to another piece of evidence

1461
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,160
that the governments were concerned

1462
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,160
about what happened and we're doing

1463
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:46,720
investigations as early as that february

1464
01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:49,440
twenty third 1981

1465
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:50,799
a date

1466
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:52,079
this is the

1467
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:54,079
mods

1468
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:00,630
and it is the subject line

1469
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:04,000
is unexplained lights

1470
01:03:13,030 --> 01:03:08,829
like

1471
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:13,040
di55 another agency di52

1472
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:14,880
do not know

1473
01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:17,880
of any serious explanation for the

1474
01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:19,599
phenomena

1475
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:23,039
p h e n o m e n a

1476
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:25,280
described at the reference which is

1477
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:28,079
unexplained light and this is about

1478
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:30,640
raf bentwater's woodbridge december 26th

1479
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:32,000
to 28th

1480
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,799
so

1481
01:03:36,309 --> 01:03:34,400
right there

1482
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,319
in this inner

1483
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:38,640
memo in the mod

1484
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:40,000
within a month

1485
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:43,680
they are referring to the phenomena

1486
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:46,559
then they say

1487
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:48,000
that

1488
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:50,079
background radioactivity varies

1489
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:52,960
considerably due to a number of factors

1490
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:54,480
and it goes into

1491
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:58,799
values of millirenkins per hour and it

1492
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:01,280
says the measurements that they got out

1493
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:03,599
in the forest quote

1494
01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:06,319
seems significantly higher

1495
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:09,720
than the average background of about

1496
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:13,599
0.015 million rankings per hour

1497
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:14,400
so

1498
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:16,240
within one month

1499
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:18,400
this is phenomena

1500
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:20,400
unexplained lights

1501
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:21,839
and they have

1502
01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:23,839
are talking among each other in the

1503
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:26,559
document that only came out in foyer not

1504
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:30,240
very long ago right having to do

1505
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,440
with significantly higher than average

1506
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:34,960
background

1507
01:04:38,829 --> 01:04:37,440
of radiation now radiation

1508
01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:38,839
breaks down

1509
01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:41,599
into ionizing

1510
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,480
and

1511
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,559
non ionizing

1512
01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:46,880
and when you uh

1513
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:48,000
go to

1514
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:50,960
think of ionizing its alpha beta gamma

1515
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:53,039
radiation that can

1516
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:57,359
split off electrons that makes them ions

1517
01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:59,200
and that's where it's very dangerous

1518
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:02,240
that's what happens if an atomic bomb is

1519
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:05,520
dropped that's ionizing radiation and it

1520
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:08,400
does terrible damage to bodies depending

1521
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:11,440
upon exposure uh closeness length of

1522
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:12,559
time

1523
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:13,599
and

1524
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:14,640
the

1525
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:23,839
in project condyne

1526
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,000
they're focusing on

1527
01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:28,160
non-ionizing

1528
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:29,839
frequencies

1529
01:05:34,870 --> 01:05:31,760
and the one that john burroughs

1530
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:34,880
understands is of great interest

1531
01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:37,359
both for weaponization

1532
01:05:42,789 --> 01:05:40,720
and what was coming from those uaps

1533
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:42,799
is in the terahertz

1534
01:05:47,430 --> 01:05:44,000
frequency

1535
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:47,440
and that is between infrared and

1536
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,160
microwave on the electromagnetic

1537
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:52,799
spectrum and at earth files

1538
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:55,680
in the uh parts one and two from

1539
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:57,760
february 27th

1540
01:06:02,069 --> 01:06:00,640
i go into this with a graphic to show

1541
01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:02,079
where it is

1542
01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:05,359
on the electromagnetic spectrum

1543
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:06,319
and

1544
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:10,240
between

1545
01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:13,680
if you have are talking about ionization

1546
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:16,640
that is a different kind of radiation

1547
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:19,359
than ionizing and the question has

1548
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:21,760
always been in our discussions

1549
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:25,440
about what would this uap radiation be

1550
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:28,799
that non-i ionizing radiation

1551
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,880
as we know it

1552
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:32,720
in things like

1553
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:34,400
let's just go over in the current

1554
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:37,039
civilian world sure

1555
01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:39,920
yeah uses of non-ionizing radiation

1556
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:41,039
include

1557
01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:44,960
those terahertz airport scanners that

1558
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:47,599
look through clothes looking for weapons

1559
01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:48,480
that's

1560
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:49,760
terahertz

1561
01:06:55,870 --> 01:06:52,480
and it can be microwaves

1562
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,880
uh it can be uh heating food or

1563
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:57,520
telecommunications

1564
01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:00,720
infrared lamps are used in restaurants

1565
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:02,400
to keep food warm

1566
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:05,760
their radio wave broadcasting

1567
01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:07,359
so why

1568
01:07:13,910 --> 01:07:10,880
would uap radiation

1569
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:13,920
as it's defined lying between microwave

1570
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:15,839
and infrared on the electromagnet

1571
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:18,160
magnetic spectrum

1572
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:21,520
why would that be focused on in any way

1573
01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:25,200
as damaging and john said and this is a

1574
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,559
quote from him

1575
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:28,799
the best i can tell you on this is that

1576
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:32,559
it was clear once this information

1577
01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:34,880
about this kind of frequency was made

1578
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:37,599
available to his civilian doctors

1579
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:39,440
down in phoenix

1580
01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:40,880
all of a sudden

1581
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:43,520
the doctors knew what to look for and

1582
01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:46,319
they did some more testing on me

1583
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:49,119
prior to that meaning classified

1584
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:50,480
information

1585
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:53,119
was provided about this uap radiation

1586
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:55,920
exposure at raf bent waters in december

1587
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:59,039
1980 it was it was classified

1588
01:08:02,950 --> 01:08:01,119
and somebody got information to his

1589
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:02,960
civilian doctors

1590
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:06,000
and once they had the classified

1591
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:07,359
information

1592
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:09,760
quote my civilian doctors could not

1593
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:12,160
understand that a guy of my health

1594
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,520
overall my heart was healthy other than

1595
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:17,520
the fact that he was being damaged

1596
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,400
because it kept going into a fib atrial

1597
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:22,560
fibrillation and congestive heart

1598
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:23,600
failure

1599
01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:26,719
the civilian doctors were so puzzled

1600
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:29,120
until they got this information and then

1601
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:30,719
it turns out

1602
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:32,480
what they find

1603
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:35,600
is in the mid mitral valve in john

1604
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,199
burroughs heart

1605
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:39,759
uh you can google this you can see

1606
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:42,000
photographs and diagrams

1607
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,400
that the micro uh

1608
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:46,400
micro valve in the heart

1609
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:49,359
has leaflets and they have to do with

1610
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:53,279
the flow of the blood and the

1611
01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:56,960
anterior back leaflet in john burroughs

1612
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,880
when they finally had this information

1613
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:00,640
about what to look for

1614
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:03,440
it was completely shredded

1615
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:05,839
they had not seen the civilian doctors

1616
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:08,000
had never seen that before

1617
01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:11,199
and when they did the open heart surgery

1618
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:14,719
in mid-december of 2013

1619
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:15,759
uh

1620
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:16,719
the

1621
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:22,080
let john know

1622
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:25,679
that that was truly life-saving surgery

1623
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:28,880
he probably would have died within days

1624
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:30,719
if he had not had that open-heart

1625
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:34,719
surgery that's how bad it was and the

1626
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:37,600
very fact that he didn't have blocked

1627
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:40,480
arteries he didn't have any other heart

1628
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:44,080
disease it were these it was related to

1629
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:47,520
these leaflets in this mitral valve

1630
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,560
underscored for john and for his

1631
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,799
attorney pat frisconia

1632
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:54,800
that they were dealing

1633
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:58,239
with classified information about what

1634
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:00,320
certain frequencies

1635
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:02,800
in the electromagnetic spectrum

1636
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:03,840
could do

1637
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,679
to human tissue

1638
01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:08,159
and that it would vary upon length of

1639
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:10,239
time of exposure

1640
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:11,120
and

1641
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:12,640
john burroughs

1642
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:16,159
is the only person that any of us know

1643
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:18,960
was exposed twice

1644
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,600
by people outside of him

1645
01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:23,360
saying that he was

1646
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:27,360
close or engulfed in or some proximity

1647
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:30,080
that was very close to these lights

1648
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,440
therefore

1649
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:33,120
his exposure

1650
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:34,560
to whatever

1651
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:37,679
the definition is now by government

1652
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:41,840
insiders of uap radiation uap is another

1653
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:45,760
acronym for ufo we're talking about

1654
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,760
technology

1655
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:49,679
that is outside

1656
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:53,520
of earth terrestrial technology and it

1657
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,400
also sounds like

1658
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:58,400
in the right dose that that could

1659
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:00,880
explain what forced bastenza to the

1660
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:03,280
ground as well

1661
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:05,520
yeah that that we're talking about

1662
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:07,840
energies that can have

1663
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:13,440
uh impacts on human minds and in fact

1664
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:15,199
in

1665
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:18,000
this page f4

1666
01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:23,120
of the condyne report annex f

1667
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:24,840
it says in

1668
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:31,590
they're talking about uap radiation it

1669
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:34,719
would seem that this effect can occur

1670
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:37,920
when close to a uap

1671
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:40,400
and they're talking about high

1672
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:42,560
probability

1673
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:43,760
that

1674
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:47,440
this electromagnetic radiation from uaps

1675
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:50,560
can affect the human brain i'm reading

1676
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:53,440
right from the condyne report exactly

1677
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,080
and it would seem that this effect

1678
01:12:02,310 --> 01:11:58,960
that means effect on the human brain

1679
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:02,320
can occur when close to a uap either

1680
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:05,120
outdoors or indoors

1681
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:07,120
this causes the brain

1682
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:10,800
to interact in an unusual way

1683
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:13,840
with the imagination library and they've

1684
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,080
got library in quotes

1685
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:18,880
causing reports of visual activity which

1686
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:21,679
are not in fact a true representation of

1687
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:23,840
the facts i mean this is what this

1688
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:25,760
report is saying

1689
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,440
but it goes on

1690
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:29,600
to underscore

1691
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:32,800
that they know that this uap radiation

1692
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:36,880
is used to manipulate human minds so

1693
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:39,120
when it comes to what happened to adrian

1694
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:42,400
vistinda and he says the light forced me

1695
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:44,000
to the ground

1696
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,120
it would fall into this category of an

1697
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:49,440
interaction with the mind

1698
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:54,000
that it was able to get adrian vistinza

1699
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:56,320
to either he thought he was falling he

1700
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:57,920
thought he was pushed

1701
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:01,199
something took a a military guy who was

1702
01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:02,960
next to john burroughs and put him on

1703
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,679
the ground yeah not only you're exactly

1704
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:07,199
right and i

1705
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:09,199
i just like you i'm sure you did the

1706
01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:12,159
same thing i did uh john and i

1707
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:15,199
on the phone one day we read uh condine

1708
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,400
together right and just revolution after

1709
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:20,480
revelation i should say revolution

1710
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:24,320
revelation after revelation together and

1711
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:27,840
uh but and i would go back to john and

1712
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:29,520
and i i know you've done the exact same

1713
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:31,440
thing which is john okay so what do you

1714
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:32,400
remember

1715
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,719
you know john give me a detail dude i

1716
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,640
would love to jimmy

1717
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:42,880
i don't remember a thing i don't

1718
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:45,120
remember peniston i don't remember this

1719
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:47,679
i don't remember that i there are blank

1720
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:50,640
spots here that i don't remember a thing

1721
01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:53,360
and that's exactly what the condy report

1722
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:56,080
is saying to the letter

1723
01:14:03,510 --> 01:13:59,840
yeah and i have myself personally

1724
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:03,520
been a person trying to help john with a

1725
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:06,000
variety of hypnosis sessions going all

1726
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,760
the way back to the 1990s was the first

1727
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:11,920
we start we tried and and he couldn't

1728
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:16,239
get anything and then uh in the 2009 uh

1729
01:14:23,350 --> 01:14:21,120
to 2010 period i got him uh into it was

1730
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:23,360
two different people uh they did very

1731
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:24,480
good work

1732
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:26,480
and the closest john

1733
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,760
got

1734
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:29,120
was

1735
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:30,480
he

1736
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:40,000
have come up in his hypnosis sessions

1737
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,679
as if the blue light will not let him

1738
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:45,840
go in his mind

1739
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:46,960
closer

1740
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:47,840
to

1741
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:51,679
a black space that he may have entered

1742
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:54,159
and it's interesting to me having

1743
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:56,080
interviewed so many people in the human

1744
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:57,760
abduction syndrome

1745
01:15:02,550 --> 01:14:59,760
that there are these

1746
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:02,560
periods in let's say the process some

1747
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:04,800
people don't remember anything either or

1748
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:06,400
some people remember going through a

1749
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:09,520
wall and it felt like feathers on their

1750
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,640
skin

1751
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:12,640
some people have been conscious going up

1752
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:15,120
through a ceiling uh there's these

1753
01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:17,840
various levels of consciousness or no

1754
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:20,080
consciousness until they're in a room

1755
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:21,760
well there have been

1756
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,719
a few people exactly as what happens

1757
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:26,400
under the

1758
01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:28,159
hypnosis session when john got the

1759
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:29,679
closest

1760
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:32,800
these blue lights seem to have been

1761
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:35,840
programmed in some way in his mind to

1762
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:39,120
block him from remembering and i have

1763
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:42,080
been in a few cases where people

1764
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:44,880
will be moving toward a crafter that or

1765
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:47,040
something is happening and then they'll

1766
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:49,679
get a block and the block will be from

1767
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:51,120
something like

1768
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:52,400
blue lights

1769
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:55,360
uh in some cases it's been red lights

1770
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:58,719
but it's as if we are dealing with a

1771
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:01,280
very advanced technology that knows

1772
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:04,960
exactly how to interact with our bodies

1773
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:07,280
and our human mind

1774
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:10,000
when john uh worked with you on doing

1775
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:12,880
this press release uh and he hit me with

1776
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:13,840
it at the

1777
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:15,760
at the same time and i was so excited

1778
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:17,679
that day it was such a great day

1779
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:19,920
uh but have you ever you've been doing

1780
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:22,719
this for a long time linda uh have you

1781
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:23,760
ever

1782
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:31,040
disclosure or admitting in in anything

1783
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:33,040
that you have done in the past

1784
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,360
well in fact i would go

1785
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,840
beyond that word and i agree with pat

1786
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:39,120
and john

1787
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:41,679
this to me is confirmation this is

1788
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:44,400
confirmation by the department of

1789
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:45,760
defense through the veterans

1790
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:47,120
administration

1791
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:48,960
that they are saying

1792
01:16:51,669 --> 01:16:50,080
that

1793
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:51,679
the uap

1794
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,199
radiation

1795
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:55,840
this caused the injury in the line of

1796
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:58,159
duty in rendelsham forest

1797
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:01,120
where john was based and had these close

1798
01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:04,400
encounters with the uap or ufos here in

1799
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:05,440
the us

1800
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:08,560
in the forest and that that radiation

1801
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:11,120
could cause damage to

1802
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:11,920
the

1803
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:15,199
leaflets in his heart and cause problems

1804
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:16,640
in his eyes

1805
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:17,840
and that

1806
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:18,719
is the

1807
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:21,520
i think i mean paprisconia

1808
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:23,679
put it in the press release

1809
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,199
this is the first time on record right

1810
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:29,440
it's an implied

1811
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:33,280
so

1812
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:35,040
disclosure

1813
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:37,760
almost becomes irrelevant because it's

1814
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:40,480
already happening right right right well

1815
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:42,880
you know and

1816
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,679
you personally uh where

1817
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:47,280
you know you've been on this quest in

1818
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:49,840
this journey for so long

1819
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:52,480
is this the closest that you have to

1820
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:54,400
personally where uh

1821
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:56,560
i mean we all want the best for john but

1822
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:58,400
i mean you personally where you just

1823
01:18:01,270 --> 01:17:59,280
went

1824
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:01,280
oh finally

1825
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:04,800
finally finally yeah i've always thought

1826
01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:07,760
that raf van waters woodbridge was the

1827
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:09,679
most important case because it involved

1828
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:12,480
so many people in the military and uh we

1829
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:15,440
could go for six hours uh tonight just

1830
01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:18,159
going over all of the interviews that

1831
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:20,400
over the past several years that i have

1832
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:21,920
done with a lot of different people who

1833
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:24,239
were there i mean it was an incredible

1834
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:26,640
72 hours that took place

1835
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:29,760
and there is a whole section

1836
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:33,120
jimmy that i'm not disclosing yet

1837
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:34,719
that relates to

1838
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:36,960
a very very

1839
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:40,000
stunning uh possible revelation in

1840
01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:42,239
relationship to bent waters and i'm

1841
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:44,320
going to introduce that for the first

1842
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,280
time

1843
01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:47,440
at the eureka springs conference in the

1844
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:49,760
first weekend in april

1845
01:18:54,990 --> 01:18:53,280
and i'm not being coy i am being uh

1846
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:55,000
there there are pieces of it it's

1847
01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:58,400
multi-faceted and i am trying to get uh

1848
01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:02,080
as many pieces that are firm when i do

1849
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:03,679
that presentation

1850
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:04,400
but

1851
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:07,199
what this what this says to me is that i

1852
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:09,840
have been working on pieces of raf bent

1853
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:12,960
waters ever since chuck de caro

1854
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:16,239
was working at cnn and i was working on

1855
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:19,760
uh the hbo special in denver colorado a

1856
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:22,960
ufo's the et factor and chuck de caro

1857
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,080
and i

1858
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,320
uh met and we talked about raf belt

1859
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:29,280
waters which remember it came it did not

1860
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:30,320
appear

1861
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,640
into the world i think it was october of

1862
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,560
1983

1863
01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:36,640
approximately three years after the

1864
01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:40,320
first event and then chuck dicaro was

1865
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:42,080
the very first

1866
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:45,360
um i would say mainstream investigative

1867
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:48,640
reporter who did a series of five parts

1868
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:50,719
for cnn he was in a special

1869
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:52,719
investigative unit based in washington

1870
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:53,920
dc

1871
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:56,400
and chuck did as many interviews as he

1872
01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:58,640
could get people to do and back then

1873
01:20:03,110 --> 01:20:01,679
john burroughs wouldn't talk to him

1874
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:03,120
right

1875
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:06,960
but that was for me

1876
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:11,189
uh

1877
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:15,040
chuck did the series for cnn in 1984.

1878
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:17,920
and that's where it really seriously

1879
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:20,320
began and people like ray boucher in

1880
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:23,520
nebraska was working with uh

1881
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:25,360
senator exxon

1882
01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:28,320
they were trying to get information from

1883
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:30,640
as many people as they could

1884
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:32,560
excuse me and

1885
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:36,400
that we were all in various layers there

1886
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:39,280
were different levels of exposure

1887
01:20:41,430 --> 01:20:40,080
from

1888
01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:41,440
the first

1889
01:20:44,630 --> 01:20:43,520
news of the world story with larry

1890
01:20:47,110 --> 01:20:44,640
warren

1891
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:47,120
that was using an uh pseudonym at the

1892
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:48,080
time

1893
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:50,960
uh and then through the years

1894
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:54,400
uh in 1986

1895
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:55,280
um

1896
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:57,840
there was a mathematician back east and

1897
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:01,600
i sat with larry warren for uh like six

1898
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:02,560
hours

1899
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:05,760
and we went through his perspective and

1900
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:08,880
i have all of larry warren's uh

1901
01:21:15,229 --> 01:21:12,480
transcript at earth files uh there were

1902
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:15,239
so many different people that in the

1903
01:21:20,630 --> 01:21:17,760
2009 10 11

1904
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,640
12 periods related to finding and

1905
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:22,960
tracking down other people who were

1906
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:25,920
there when john burroughs was there that

1907
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:29,679
third night and saw him and and

1908
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:32,000
they are sort of reinforcing

1909
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:34,560
from the outside uh the facts of what

1910
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:36,800
happened the lighthole is going in with

1911
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:38,960
uh all of these men

1912
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,840
all of those interviews are at

1913
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:42,480
earthfiles.com

1914
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,159
with uh

1915
01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:47,120
some of the most interesting detail

1916
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:50,000
about what was happening in the radar

1917
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:52,800
towers and and it when you read

1918
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:55,040
everything and you realize that

1919
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:57,760
something highly significant went on for

1920
01:22:02,470 --> 01:22:00,239
72 hours and then

1921
01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:02,480
when jim patterson

1922
01:22:06,629 --> 01:22:04,159
tied his

1923
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:06,639
we'll call it the telepathic download

1924
01:22:11,510 --> 01:22:09,040
along with the binary code

1925
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:11,520
to the idea of time

1926
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:14,080
travelers

1927
01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:18,560
coming from 50 000 years in the future

1928
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:21,280
that's in the hypnosis transcript that

1929
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:24,239
he did in 1994

1930
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:27,600
and that they were coming here

1931
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:30,080
to harvest

1932
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:34,880
genetic material to use as band-aids

1933
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:35,920
back

1934
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:39,199
50 000 years in the future where

1935
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:42,080
apparently something really bad was

1936
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:44,480
happening and that the entire

1937
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:47,920
projected human civilization was facing

1938
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:50,880
complete and total extinction if they

1939
01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:54,560
couldn't artificially keep dna going or

1940
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:56,719
something along those lines

1941
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:58,560
now

1942
01:23:02,950 --> 01:22:59,520
the

1943
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:02,960
i guess we could say jimmy that if

1944
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,840
that telepathic download were anywhere

1945
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:07,120
true

1946
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,400
it means we're going to get past isis

1947
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,560
we're going to get past nuclear

1948
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,320
awareness we're going to make it we're

1949
01:23:19,189 --> 01:23:16,239
going to we're going to keep going for

1950
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:19,199
at least another 50 000 years

1951
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:20,800
and the

1952
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:22,320
the the

1953
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:25,440
how do the complexity

1954
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:28,400
of all of the facets

1955
01:23:34,629 --> 01:23:31,840
when you start getting into the depth

1956
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:34,639
of raf bentwater's woodbridge

1957
01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:38,480
you are touching on almost every facet

1958
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:40,719
of what has been known as the ufo

1959
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:43,360
phenomena since uh

1960
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:46,719
at least the 40s if not before depending

1961
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:49,360
upon how far back you go in literature

1962
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:51,440
that's anecdotal

1963
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:52,639
and

1964
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:53,920
the

1965
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:01,280
if you if he doesn't remember

1966
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:04,080
let's say encountering a machine

1967
01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:06,960
or an android or a being or anything

1968
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,400
which he does not right then for john

1969
01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:12,800
this is in the category

1970
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:13,600
of

1971
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:18,400
by someone

1972
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,560
for

1973
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:22,880
dot dot dot questions

1974
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:25,199
and then you come to

1975
01:24:32,229 --> 01:24:28,000
what john is convinced

1976
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:32,239
that this uap radiation

1977
01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:33,679
which

1978
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:35,360
let me give you one other piece to

1979
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:38,960
cogitate about here this is on page f7

1980
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:42,480
in annex f it says

1981
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:45,679
that you know under a table having to do

1982
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:48,719
and it's labeled object uap that's

1983
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:51,199
unidentified aerial phenomena

1984
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:54,239
and it's broken down into diameters of

1985
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:57,600
uaps that means somebody has a big

1986
01:25:02,550 --> 01:24:59,760
database and they're able to put

1987
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:02,560
together a table about exposures from

1988
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:06,000
radiation from these different size uaps

1989
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:06,880
so

1990
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:13,910
we are assuming that

1991
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:15,440
uap

1992
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:19,199
is a radiation plasma

1993
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:22,480
or charged mass source

1994
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:25,280
with effective aperture shown this is

1995
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:28,000
this table in relationship to sizes

1996
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:29,280
right

1997
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,280
the recorded appearance of plasma balls

1998
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:36,080
exceptionally reaches the largest value

1999
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:39,120
shown and they're so the part to hear is

2000
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:42,000
plasma balls however

2001
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:44,639
this should not be confused

2002
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:48,080
with the large triangles

2003
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:49,840
rectangles

2004
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:52,840
and other large shapes

2005
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:54,480
reported

2006
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:58,000
among uaps where did they get the data

2007
01:26:02,390 --> 01:25:59,920
from

2008
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:02,400
you know when you when you you read that

2009
01:26:07,270 --> 01:26:04,320
obviously it's coming from a database

2010
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:07,280
obviously there's research they know

2011
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:10,960
uh and and the distribution of said

2012
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,560
papers are going to people that know

2013
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:14,800
exactly what they're referring to

2014
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,560
and there's no question about what

2015
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:18,400
they're writing

2016
01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:21,280
i it blows my mind it really does it was

2017
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,880
one of the most fascinating reads the

2018
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:24,639
first time i read condone and i was

2019
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:26,159
reading through that

2020
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:29,280
i'm thinking to myself this is uh this

2021
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:31,280
is official

2022
01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:34,880
not not admitting it's just conversation

2023
01:26:39,189 --> 01:26:36,800
about something known it's it's

2024
01:26:41,350 --> 01:26:39,199
fascinating fascinating read

2025
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,360
and jimmy

2026
01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:42,719
the idea

2027
01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:45,600
that these could be just plasma balls in

2028
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:46,880
one sentence

2029
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:49,120
is completely contradicted in the next

2030
01:26:57,030 --> 01:26:53,199
sentence if there are large triangles

2031
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:57,040
rectangles and other large shapes those

2032
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,320
are not plasma balls right

2033
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:02,400
we're talking about

2034
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:05,199
a project con dying report that is

2035
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,960
detailing what insiders inside of the uk

2036
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:10,800
and the us government

2037
01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:13,520
have been comparing notes since at least

2038
01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:15,360
world war two

2039
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:18,080
unidentified aerial objects that ran

2040
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:21,120
rings around royal air force jets uh

2041
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:22,719
that we know that churchill and

2042
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:25,360
eisenhower probably talked about this

2043
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:28,000
that they were talking with the truman

2044
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:31,199
administration and uh allegedly

2045
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,239
churchill warned uh we must keep this

2046
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:36,560
completely secret and away from the

2047
01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:38,480
public in the media for at least two

2048
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:40,719
generations and that would have been

2049
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:45,040
from uh the war years to early 90s

2050
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:48,000
so what happened in the 90s that changed

2051
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:49,920
their decision to let the whole world

2052
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:53,600
know the truth we're at 2015 right and

2053
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:55,679
it still is

2054
01:27:59,750 --> 01:27:58,960
in many ways it's more complex

2055
01:28:02,070 --> 01:27:59,760
now

2056
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,080
and that's what where i was headed when

2057
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:04,400
you asked me is this the

2058
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:07,120
closest and i said this is for me a

2059
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:09,199
confirmation that the government are

2060
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:11,280
saying it's true it's real it's a

2061
01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:14,400
phenomena the radiation can affect uh

2062
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:17,679
human tissue and brains and all of that

2063
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:19,920
but the complexity

2064
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:22,400
of hybrids clones

2065
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:26,080
bases solar systems uh the whole issue

2066
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:29,600
of time travel parallel dimensions

2067
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,639
we are now at a time where quantum

2068
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,880
physics papers are coming out it seems

2069
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:36,960
like every other week

2070
01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:40,719
basically supporting ideas that this

2071
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:42,400
cosmos is

2072
01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:44,639
beyond complex when it comes to our

2073
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:46,159
understanding the relationship of

2074
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:49,120
parallel universes other dimensions

2075
01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:52,239
other timelines so that the variety of

2076
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,320
what we could be dealing with in

2077
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:56,560
unidentified aerial phenomena could

2078
01:29:01,270 --> 01:28:58,639
range through all of it from

2079
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:01,280
extraterrestrial biological entities to

2080
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:04,159
other dimensional entities and once you

2081
01:29:09,430 --> 01:29:06,880
realize that the language is there that

2082
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:09,440
we are at a time

2083
01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:11,520
when more and more people are reading

2084
01:29:18,149 --> 01:29:14,639
about time travel are reading about the

2085
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:18,159
uh issue of parallel universes not like

2086
01:29:22,470 --> 01:29:20,719
it is something from sci-fi that this is

2087
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:22,480
growing right out of what quantum

2088
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:24,800
physicists are studying now reporting

2089
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:25,679
about

2090
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:29,040
and maybe for the first time the ground

2091
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:32,159
the plowed ground of the world is

2092
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:35,120
beginning to be deep enough and rich

2093
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:36,000
enough

2094
01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:38,719
that if the government's all

2095
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:41,360
and not when i say government's plural

2096
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:43,120
i am assuming

2097
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:45,280
that most of the

2098
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:46,639
power

2099
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:48,639
1

2100
01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:50,880
are in on this

2101
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,320
and whether or not

2102
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:56,480
they don't want to open it up because

2103
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:58,639
they would lose control

2104
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:00,320
they don't want to open it up because

2105
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:03,760
they're weaponizing e.t technology they

2106
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:06,000
don't want to open it up because i mean

2107
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:08,159
you can start filling in those blanks

2108
01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:09,040
yes

2109
01:30:15,430 --> 01:30:12,159
but you come to your and my and john's

2110
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:15,440
and other people's bottom line

2111
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:16,960
this

2112
01:30:21,990 --> 01:30:18,960
is a subject

2113
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:22,000
that all homo sapiens

2114
01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:23,760
should know

2115
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:25,520
this is not something

2116
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:27,520
that a tiny elite

2117
01:30:32,790 --> 01:30:28,960
should continue

2118
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:32,800
to profit manipulate build weapons on

2119
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:35,120
and continue to run a world that's

2120
01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:37,679
concocted and that we're not told the

2121
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:38,719
truth

2122
01:30:44,950 --> 01:30:42,480
and uh along those lines john burroughs

2123
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:44,960
has done something else very very

2124
01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:48,000
important and he was recognized for this

2125
01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:50,800
on saturday february 21st at the open

2126
01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:53,679
minds conference in phoenix

2127
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:55,920
uh john received

2128
01:31:02,470 --> 01:31:00,000
the 2015 researcher of the year award at

2129
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:02,480
the open minds congress

2130
01:31:07,350 --> 01:31:05,280
and this was because of john's

2131
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:07,360
breakthrough by using freedom of

2132
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:10,000
information request to the uk's ministry

2133
01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:11,360
of defense

2134
01:31:17,189 --> 01:31:13,920
that has finally provoked

2135
01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:17,199
the ministry of defense to admit

2136
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:19,679
that it did not release

2137
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:23,360
all ufo uap files to the national

2138
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:26,239
archives that it made such big publicity

2139
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,520
about uh

2140
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:29,280
like over a period of three or four

2141
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:32,000
years and larry king had people on each

2142
01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:34,400
time that there were new documents right

2143
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:35,120
that

2144
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:36,320
they

2145
01:31:39,350 --> 01:31:38,400
the whole uh

2146
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:39,360
when

2147
01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:43,600
there was a headline

2148
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:45,199
that the

2149
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:48,480
ministry of defense had released all of

2150
01:31:55,669 --> 01:31:52,320
its ufo files to the national archives

2151
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:55,679
and then oops there was this subheading

2152
01:32:02,229 --> 01:31:59,280
except the uh raf bad waters files have

2153
01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:02,239
gone missing that was the quote that was

2154
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:07,280
in the uk newspapers have gone missing

2155
01:32:11,669 --> 01:32:08,159
well

2156
01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:11,679
john may have found or at least dotnet

2157
01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:12,719
admission

2158
01:32:17,830 --> 01:32:16,239
about the existence of at least 18

2159
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:17,840
and they are

2160
01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:20,080
classified files

2161
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:23,360
they are listed in the foia reply that

2162
01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:25,600
john got this fall

2163
01:32:30,629 --> 01:32:28,719
saying that six were policy files that

2164
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:30,639
would be what we would consider to be

2165
01:32:35,669 --> 01:32:33,840
really heavy red meat in these documents

2166
01:32:37,510 --> 01:32:35,679
if we could ever read all of them the

2167
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:37,520
policy files

2168
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:39,280
and the

2169
01:32:42,950 --> 01:32:42,000
the next step jimmy is

2170
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:42,960
we are

2171
01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:45,040
in march now

2172
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:47,120
and at 2015

2173
01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:49,520
and in these replies

2174
01:32:53,830 --> 01:32:50,960
to john

2175
01:32:55,030 --> 01:32:53,840
admitting that they had withheld

2176
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:55,040
18

2177
01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:57,679
classified files

2178
01:33:05,110 --> 01:33:00,239
they said that they would keep those

2179
01:33:07,430 --> 01:33:05,120
files until the fall of 2015

2180
01:33:08,629 --> 01:33:07,440
and then they would release them

2181
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:08,639
maybe

2182
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:09,600
and

2183
01:33:17,669 --> 01:33:15,199
uh in one of my interviews he was saying

2184
01:33:20,550 --> 01:33:17,679
that his expectation would be

2185
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:20,560
that they would keep these files for all

2186
01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:25,120
of this time uh to redact yeah can i ask

2187
01:33:30,229 --> 01:33:27,520
you a question about that really quick

2188
01:33:34,229 --> 01:33:30,239
uh we're talking about is it 19 or is it

2189
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:34,239
18 pages or when we say 18 files a file

2190
01:33:39,189 --> 01:33:37,440
could be hundred pages 50 pages

2191
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:39,199
project kind of

2192
01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:42,239
can be a file it's 460 pages long

2193
01:33:46,870 --> 01:33:44,719
exactly so we're talking about a lot of

2194
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,880
stuff here that's already been redacted

2195
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:48,480
we don't have to worry about they're

2196
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:51,440
going to re-redact the reactions

2197
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:52,560
um

2198
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:55,520
so this fall john and his attorney would

2199
01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:56,560
encourage

2200
01:34:02,310 --> 01:33:59,120
yeah you know anybody who has the

2201
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:02,320
persistence and the will

2202
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:05,440
what needs to be done is to watch for

2203
01:34:12,470 --> 01:34:08,000
what they do release

2204
01:34:14,390 --> 01:34:12,480
in the 18 withheld classified files

2205
01:34:16,470 --> 01:34:14,400
and if they come out with a lot of black

2206
01:34:19,189 --> 01:34:16,480
lines or white lines you know fighting

2207
01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:19,199
out now is considered more sophisticated

2208
01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:21,840
than blocking out but we'll see right

2209
01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:22,880
right

2210
01:34:27,669 --> 01:34:26,080
then what we need our foia

2211
01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:27,679
on

2212
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:34,080
you know there's a there's an elephant

2213
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:36,719
in the room here too uh and we kind of

2214
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:39,600
danced over it uh a little bit i want to

2215
01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:42,880
back up the elephant in the room for me

2216
01:34:49,910 --> 01:34:46,880
is and it was for john mccain as well is

2217
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:49,920
classified medical records now if you're

2218
01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:52,800
going to classify well enough why would

2219
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:55,040
you classify somebody's why would why

2220
01:34:59,189 --> 01:34:57,360
would that be top secret why would you

2221
01:35:01,350 --> 01:34:59,199
deny somebody his very own medical

2222
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:01,360
records unless

2223
01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:03,280
something either happened during that

2224
01:35:07,910 --> 01:35:05,840
period that maybe they were working on

2225
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:07,920
his mind certainly he doesn't remember

2226
01:35:11,350 --> 01:35:10,080
certain things that's an aspect of it

2227
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:11,360
and they don't want that disclosed

2228
01:35:15,750 --> 01:35:13,840
because if that's disclosed and it's in

2229
01:35:17,510 --> 01:35:15,760
his medical records then why are you

2230
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:17,520
doing that to him unless something

2231
01:35:20,950 --> 01:35:19,120
happened right

2232
01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:20,960
there's that and there's that part of it

2233
01:35:23,990 --> 01:35:21,920
or

2234
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:24,000
uh

2235
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:26,400
do his medical records a

2236
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:29,760
flat out state this encounter

2237
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:32,320
with the ufo in the forest and they were

2238
01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:36,320
dealing with an e.t technology on john

2239
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:38,800
either or that's what it is there's a

2240
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:41,600
reason why those are being withheld and

2241
01:35:47,830 --> 01:35:42,400
john

2242
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:47,840
uh i said so did you ask senator mccain

2243
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:50,320
uh about you know the classified medical

2244
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:53,280
records and he goes he said mccain said

2245
01:35:57,270 --> 01:35:55,360
to me i could be wrong on this so let me

2246
01:35:58,149 --> 01:35:57,280
paraphrase but mccain said what do you

2247
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:58,159
mean

2248
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:00,480
classified medical records

2249
01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:02,480
you know and and because that's just not

2250
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:04,400
supposed to happen and don't you think

2251
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:06,639
that that is like the big elephant in

2252
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:07,840
the room

2253
01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:10,080
well it still is because he still

2254
01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:12,719
doesn't have his medical records he's

2255
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:16,000
gotten his va medical benefits right

2256
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:19,679
finally uh with mccain's help but he

2257
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:22,960
still does not have access to his 79 to

2258
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:25,920
82 medical records from aria waters

2259
01:36:32,149 --> 01:36:28,080
because they are still

2260
01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:32,159
classified and it seems so bizarre

2261
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:35,440
doesn't it to have benefits that get

2262
01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:38,719
acknowledged and are granted and in the

2263
01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:41,840
line of duty and the in the line of duty

2264
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:44,800
relates to exposure to uap radiation in

2265
01:36:50,709 --> 01:36:47,760
rentals from forest in december 1980

2266
01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:50,719
but those medical records that are

2267
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:53,840
intimately germaine to his heart damage

2268
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,520
he cannot get

2269
01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:57,360
and nobody thought that was possible

2270
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:00,159
that's right everybody thought that a

2271
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,520
military person who had served and is

2272
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:05,760
found injured in the line of duty should

2273
01:37:11,109 --> 01:37:07,840
have access to those medical records

2274
01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,119
that are germane now let me offer

2275
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:13,280
one possibility

2276
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:17,280
for why they remain classified

2277
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,960
if

2278
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:21,840
you have a big database

2279
01:37:25,510 --> 01:37:23,360
of this

2280
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:25,520
we'll continue to call it the acronym

2281
01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:27,760
uap

2282
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:31,040
radiation right that may or may not be

2283
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:33,119
in the terahertz

2284
01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:35,760
ionizing and used by non-humans in a

2285
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:38,239
very specific way that we do not

2286
01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:39,440
understand

2287
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:41,360
but so we'll just keep calling it the

2288
01:37:45,350 --> 01:37:43,280
uap radiation

2289
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:45,360
and you have a database because that's

2290
01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:47,440
been suggested all over the place in

2291
01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:49,760
condy they're putting together tables

2292
01:37:55,669 --> 01:37:52,400
and stuff and that's based on a lot of

2293
01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:55,679
knowledge experience and measurements

2294
01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:58,080
that implies

2295
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:59,920
that if you

2296
01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:01,199
know

2297
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:04,480
what happened to human tissue

2298
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:07,199
you can work backwards

2299
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:10,000
from that damage

2300
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,000
to the radiation

2301
01:38:17,030 --> 01:38:14,400
you can calculate the radiation and

2302
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:17,040
perhaps learn and calculate something

2303
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:20,400
working backwards to the technology

2304
01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:21,520
i'm sure

2305
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:24,320
that the uk and the u s governments in

2306
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:27,520
some agency in some division has done a

2307
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:29,440
lot of stuff like that

2308
01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:31,040
and that they have

2309
01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:33,520
much more first hand knowledge and

2310
01:38:37,750 --> 01:38:36,239
experience about what will let's just

2311
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:37,760
put it in this big

2312
01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:41,920
label and call it a non-human phenomena

2313
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:43,440
so

2314
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:46,320
the way governments work

2315
01:38:50,870 --> 01:38:47,520
when they

2316
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,880
realize that there is an energy system

2317
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:52,000
here

2318
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:54,880
from something foreign and it can do

2319
01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:56,159
damage

2320
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,719
it can manipulate mind

2321
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:00,480
what's the next thing what what's the

2322
01:39:05,189 --> 01:39:03,280
first thing they're going to think about

2323
01:39:06,149 --> 01:39:05,199
weapons

2324
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:06,159
so

2325
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:09,920
if you're in the mod or the department

2326
01:39:14,950 --> 01:39:13,440
of defense or the cia or the nsa or that

2327
01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:14,960
world

2328
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:16,320
then

2329
01:39:21,669 --> 01:39:19,199
what's the first thing that ever happens

2330
01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:21,679
if you have anything that comes

2331
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:24,800
into the category of of weapons

2332
01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:27,360
it's classified

2333
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:28,239
so

2334
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:31,920
throughout all of this over the last 35

2335
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:33,520
years

2336
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:35,040
there has been

2337
01:39:39,590 --> 01:39:37,040
leaks allegedly

2338
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:39,600
that or documents

2339
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:43,440
as if defending the mods not commenting

2340
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:45,679
on our effect waters much because they

2341
01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:48,960
said it was of no defense significance

2342
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:52,000
right we have found that phrase right

2343
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:52,960
and

2344
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:55,280
john would argue

2345
01:40:02,870 --> 01:39:59,199
that project condyne alone

2346
01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:02,880
you read the whole 460 pages

2347
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:06,000
this is about energy

2348
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:09,679
that can interact with human minds human

2349
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:12,239
tissues and it means earth tissues not

2350
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:16,719
just humans it we're organic life forms

2351
01:40:22,149 --> 01:40:18,239
and that

2352
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:22,159
it's being you it's being weaponized

2353
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:24,960
and we don't know all of the we'll call

2354
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:26,639
it the political

2355
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:29,600
geopolitical territorial

2356
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:32,639
priorities that are being involved here

2357
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:35,199
because you and i don't know about the

2358
01:40:41,189 --> 01:40:38,560
agendas of the non-human versus humans

2359
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:41,199
let's assume that there are agencies

2360
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:43,280
that do

2361
01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:46,480
so if you can get the energy

2362
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:50,560
system to work that you have seen in

2363
01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:51,760
forest

2364
01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:53,840
and you have people who have been

2365
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:55,679
affected by it

2366
01:40:59,830 --> 01:40:57,040
and you can

2367
01:41:02,310 --> 01:40:59,840
get smart scientists to start working

2368
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:02,320
with that same kind of energy

2369
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:04,480
and start developing

2370
01:41:09,189 --> 01:41:07,119
weapons to be used against

2371
01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:09,199
x

2372
01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:12,320
you are then in the most classified

2373
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:14,880
field that would exist for the uk in the

2374
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:16,080
us

2375
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:18,880
and that probably is why john burroughs

2376
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:20,239
medical records

2377
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:22,159
are still classified and not released

2378
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,520
even if

2379
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,040
that seems

2380
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:27,679
completely absurd given what's happened

2381
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:30,000
to him medically yeah you know whose

2382
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:32,480
medical records get classified

2383
01:41:36,870 --> 01:41:35,920
james bond while he was in moscow you

2384
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:36,880
know

2385
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:39,360
uh overthrowing or uh

2386
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:41,600
dealing with nuclear missiles through

2387
01:41:45,590 --> 01:41:43,360
you know something that's what gets

2388
01:41:49,109 --> 01:41:45,600
classified and i get that

2389
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:49,119
not a certain uh uh uh you know uh uh an

2390
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:51,760
investigation of a lighthouse

2391
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:53,199
in a forest

2392
01:41:58,470 --> 01:41:56,320
in england on new year's eve you know

2393
01:42:01,830 --> 01:41:58,480
what i mean it's it's i do and i and

2394
01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:01,840
jimmy i hope people are uh making these

2395
01:42:05,189 --> 01:42:02,800
dots

2396
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:05,199
that weather balloon

2397
01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:08,880
that was counter intel counter in hell

2398
01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:11,199
are very bright minds they got us

2399
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:14,159
through world war one into

2400
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:16,400
counter intel are the people who sit

2401
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:19,440
around figuring out we have to keep the

2402
01:42:24,149 --> 01:42:21,760
public and the media away from subjects

2403
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:24,159
a through z and this is how we're going

2404
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:29,440
to do it and when the 1947 uh rash

2405
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:32,560
wasn't just one there was a rash of

2406
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:35,440
unidentified aerial vehicles that came

2407
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:37,360
down in a number of places in that

2408
01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:40,800
period and so the weather balloon

2409
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:43,600
got trotted out as the explanation on

2410
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:47,040
the one that probably was a genuine

2411
01:42:50,070 --> 01:42:48,159
error

2412
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:50,080
when the teletype

2413
01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:53,600
under the uh blanchard at the uh roswell

2414
01:42:58,390 --> 01:42:55,360
army airfield

2415
01:43:01,910 --> 01:42:58,400
uh said to uh

2416
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:02,629
i

2417
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:34,480
honest

2418
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:35,199
so

2419
01:43:41,350 --> 01:43:38,880
immediately it had to be transformed

2420
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:41,360
into something that would contain

2421
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,679
the story and keep the public and the

2422
01:43:47,830 --> 01:43:46,159
media at bay and here comes the weather

2423
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:47,840
balloon story

2424
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,840
and throughout the years

2425
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:51,280
swamp gas

2426
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:54,320
and lids thrown up in the air

2427
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:57,840
and all of these uh crazy things

2428
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:59,280
that are

2429
01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:01,760
efforts by counter intelligence to keep

2430
01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:04,159
the public and the media at bay and in

2431
01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:06,880
fact to underscore

2432
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:08,560
how serious

2433
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:11,199
the governments of the uk and the us

2434
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:12,159
took

2435
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:14,560
this issue of keeping the public and the

2436
01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:18,560
media completely out of anything since

2437
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:20,400
world war ii having to do

2438
01:44:24,310 --> 01:44:22,159
with what their own documents have

2439
01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:24,320
called extraterrestrial biological

2440
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:26,800
entities interacting with earth and now

2441
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:29,360
we know it might also be from parallel

2442
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:32,159
universes and other timelines right

2443
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:35,600
right there is and this is very

2444
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:38,000
significant this is like the project

2445
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:39,280
condy

2446
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:42,080
level of i think of importance

2447
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:44,880
this is what uh bob wood who worked at

2448
01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:48,000
mcdonald douglas uh and his son ryan

2449
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:48,880
wood

2450
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:49,920
they

2451
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:50,880
uh

2452
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:53,840
came into possession of a lot of

2453
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:55,520
documents leaked

2454
01:45:01,350 --> 01:44:58,159
uh in a variety of ways and they put

2455
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:01,360
together the www majestic

2456
01:45:05,669 --> 01:45:03,280
dot com website which i recommend

2457
01:45:07,830 --> 01:45:05,679
everybody to to take a look at all of

2458
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:07,840
those documents they have and one of the

2459
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:09,679
most important

2460
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:13,119
that we think was dated 1952 it was

2461
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:15,440
called the majestic 12 project first

2462
01:45:22,070 --> 01:45:18,400
annual report and probably most people

2463
01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:22,080
listening are very aware of the mj 12

2464
01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:25,600
majestic 12 majority 12 there's conflict

2465
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,639
about whether mj was a majority or

2466
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:30,960
majestic

2467
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:33,600
that here was a group of

2468
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:35,920
people that harry truman president of

2469
01:45:39,669 --> 01:45:38,080
the united states in world war ii

2470
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:39,679
hand-picked

2471
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:41,920
and put them together and it makes so

2472
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:44,960
much sense there were some military

2473
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:46,080
business

2474
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:47,280
science

2475
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,239
uh debt lebron was a doctor

2476
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:52,639
and they were to

2477
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:56,639
consult with truman and vannevar bush

2478
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:59,280
who truman relied upon for all things

2479
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:00,480
science

2480
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:04,000
and this group of men

2481
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:06,400
were given the assignment to try to

2482
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:10,239
study various aspects of this phenomena

2483
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:13,760
and do it completely secretly and this

2484
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:15,520
that i'm just going to quote one

2485
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:16,800
paragraph

2486
01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:21,600
is 1952 first annual report

2487
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:23,760
meaning that if they put this together

2488
01:46:28,310 --> 01:46:26,800
in 47 to 48

2489
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:28,320
as we think

2490
01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:30,320
this group then had been

2491
01:46:36,229 --> 01:46:33,280
doing studies on this for about four

2492
01:46:39,510 --> 01:46:36,239
years and here is

2493
01:46:42,790 --> 01:46:39,520
one of their government policy

2494
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:42,800
of control and denial

2495
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:44,320
52

2496
01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:46,960
okay quote one of the most difficult

2497
01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:48,159
aspects

2498
01:46:52,790 --> 01:46:50,159
of controlling the perception in the

2499
01:46:55,350 --> 01:46:52,800
public's mind of government attempts of

2500
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:55,360
denial and ignorance about these

2501
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:58,000
unidentified aerial craft

2502
01:47:05,109 --> 01:47:01,679
is actual control of the press

2503
01:47:06,709 --> 01:47:05,119
when they say actual control they mean

2504
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:06,719
that they can stop

2505
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:10,320
and start anything they want by having

2506
01:47:17,030 --> 01:47:13,679
control inside of the press

2507
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:17,040
until a clear intent is established with

2508
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:19,520
diplomatic relations firmly in hand

2509
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:21,119
they're talking about the motives and

2510
01:47:25,350 --> 01:47:23,119
the agendas of the extraterrestrial

2511
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:25,360
biological entities that they are

2512
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:26,880
studying

2513
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:28,719
it is the recommendation of the

2514
01:47:33,830 --> 01:47:30,800
president's special panel

2515
01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:33,840
with concurrence from majestic 12

2516
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:36,320
that a policy of strict denial of the

2517
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:39,600
event surfacing from roswell new mexico

2518
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:42,880
and any other incident of such caliber

2519
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:45,280
be enforced and by then they had had

2520
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:47,600
many crash retrievals

2521
01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,159
an interactive program of controlled

2522
01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:52,719
releases to the media

2523
01:47:58,950 --> 01:47:55,920
in such fashion to discredit

2524
01:48:01,350 --> 01:47:58,960
any civilian investigation

2525
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:01,360
be instituted in accordance with the

2526
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:04,239
provisions of the 1947

2527
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:07,440
national security act that truman signed

2528
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:12,480
into existence as uh september of 1947

2529
01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:14,719
and the discs and they

2530
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:15,600
uh

2531
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:17,280
there were wedge-shaped

2532
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:18,639
and they were just there were a lot of

2533
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,000
different things coming down in

2534
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:22,560
different places and

2535
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:25,520
the summer of 47

2536
01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:27,840
was one of those peaks

2537
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:29,040
and

2538
01:48:31,669 --> 01:48:30,080
uh

2539
01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:31,679
truman

2540
01:48:33,669 --> 01:48:32,639
had

2541
01:48:36,790 --> 01:48:33,679
the

2542
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:36,800
first secretary of defense forestall

2543
01:48:43,109 --> 01:48:39,520
uh came into office

2544
01:48:45,590 --> 01:48:43,119
at about the same time that he organized

2545
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:45,600
the central intelligence agency that was

2546
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:46,800
formally

2547
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:50,639
uh came into being september 18 1947 the

2548
01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:52,239
secretary of defense i think was

2549
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:55,040
appointed the year the day before

2550
01:48:58,470 --> 01:48:56,000
um

2551
01:49:02,470 --> 01:48:58,480
so all of these things were happening

2552
01:49:06,149 --> 01:49:02,480
within what if the month of july yeah

2553
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:06,159
yeah four or five months yeah so no july

2554
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:07,679
yes september

2555
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:10,000
yeah and then september so we're talking

2556
01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:12,320
a month and a half or two months at the

2557
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:16,000
most later you had all of this yeah yeah

2558
01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:19,440
you had you had seattle you had phoenix

2559
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:22,560
uh that was uh the same week and then

2560
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:24,960
you had roswell it was it was coming

2561
01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:26,800
down like rain

2562
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:28,719
and there were three

2563
01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:32,080
wedge-shaped craft between july 2nd and

2564
01:49:35,590 --> 01:49:33,679
july 5th

2565
01:49:39,189 --> 01:49:35,600
uh i think that the

2566
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:39,199
majestic 12 document information

2567
01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:42,480
is the most correct when it talks about

2568
01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:44,639
that one of these wedge-shaped objects

2569
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:48,480
did come down between roswell and corona

2570
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:51,920
and another one came down on the white

2571
01:49:57,030 --> 01:49:54,639
sand area near what's called the trinity

2572
01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:57,040
site that's where we did the atomic test

2573
01:50:01,990 --> 01:49:59,920
in july of 1945 right and it's always

2574
01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:02,000
been called the trinity site well we're

2575
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:04,560
now we're in 47 and it's my

2576
01:50:09,910 --> 01:50:06,800
understanding that a wedge-shaped

2577
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:09,920
vehicle came down in that vicinity and a

2578
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:11,119
third

2579
01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:13,679
was 30 miles east

2580
01:50:18,070 --> 01:50:16,560
of alamogordo on the mescalero indian

2581
01:50:19,830 --> 01:50:18,080
reservation

2582
01:50:21,910 --> 01:50:19,840
and that one

2583
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:21,920
on the indian reservation was supposed

2584
01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:25,119
to have been nearly destroyed

2585
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:28,239
by impact or who knows uh because i

2586
01:50:33,590 --> 01:50:31,440
think at that time this is another thing

2587
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:33,600
uh that if we were in the government

2588
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:35,840
then we probably would have wanted all

2589
01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:37,840
of this to be classified too that they

2590
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:42,560
were using microwave radiation in radar

2591
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,159
high strength and they realized as i

2592
01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:48,800
understand it they stumbled into this

2593
01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:52,960
that if they aimed a specific intense

2594
01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:56,159
microwave frequency and radar at an area

2595
01:51:00,629 --> 01:50:58,159
where one of these discs was they could

2596
01:51:02,470 --> 01:51:00,639
bring it down out of the sky

2597
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:02,480
that meant that we stumbled onto

2598
01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:04,560
something that would interfere with

2599
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:07,119
whatever these whether they were drones

2600
01:51:10,229 --> 01:51:09,360
whether they were manned whatever they

2601
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:10,239
were

2602
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:11,520
we could

2603
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:15,360
bring them down with microwave radiation

2604
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:17,679
that would have been an extremely

2605
01:51:21,590 --> 01:51:19,679
important piece

2606
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:21,600
and i can understand why they would have

2607
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:23,920
wanted that to stay classified

2608
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:24,800
so

2609
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:27,440
we do not know how many

2610
01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:29,280
of these downed

2611
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:32,159
i'm going to call them drones for

2612
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:34,159
because i don't think that all of the

2613
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:37,360
stuff that was coming down in the 40s to

2614
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:39,040
the early 50s

2615
01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:41,840
were manned by a prime intelligence i

2616
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:43,920
think that they would be much more akin

2617
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,400
to what we think of of drones over iran

2618
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:48,719
iraq and stuff right now

2619
01:51:53,350 --> 01:51:51,440
and so what we were bringing down

2620
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:53,360
probably had a mixture

2621
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:56,239
of things inside there would have been a

2622
01:52:02,310 --> 01:51:59,119
mixture of different types of craft that

2623
01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:02,320
were doing different kinds of work and

2624
01:52:08,229 --> 01:52:04,560
it probably was a booming buzzing

2625
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:08,239
confusion to all of in the government

2626
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:09,440
side

2627
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:12,080
what in the world are we dealing with

2628
01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:14,880
different types they don't they some of

2629
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:17,520
them seem like real android some seem

2630
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:18,960
like that they are

2631
01:52:24,390 --> 01:52:21,679
organic uh they're different shaped

2632
01:52:25,830 --> 01:52:24,400
craft what are we dealing with

2633
01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:25,840
well

2634
01:52:32,550 --> 01:52:26,639
that

2635
01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:32,560
in which president truman put together

2636
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:36,000
mj 12 and all of these policies

2637
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:37,679
of strict

2638
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:39,040
denial

2639
01:52:43,589 --> 01:52:42,480
keeping the public and the media at bay

2640
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:43,599
and

2641
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:46,239
once you have policies of denial

2642
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:47,840
that means that you have people that are

2643
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:51,119
working in the cia and and eventually

2644
01:52:55,990 --> 01:52:53,520
the nsa came into being in the dia and

2645
01:52:58,550 --> 01:52:56,000
the nro and on and on

2646
01:53:01,430 --> 01:52:58,560
that it is their job

2647
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:01,440
sometimes i think we all forget this

2648
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:03,280
governments do have reasons to have

2649
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:05,119
policies of denial

2650
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:10,480
they are ordered

2651
01:53:15,109 --> 01:53:12,159
to lie

2652
01:53:17,430 --> 01:53:15,119
isn't it fascinating how close

2653
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:17,440
we were if walter hought

2654
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:20,320
hadn't had done what he had did

2655
01:53:24,629 --> 01:53:23,119
he was minutes away from

2656
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:24,639
total secrecy

2657
01:53:29,189 --> 01:53:27,040
if he would not have gotten that out if

2658
01:53:31,750 --> 01:53:29,199
he would not have dealt with blanche if

2659
01:53:34,229 --> 01:53:31,760
if everything would have just been

2660
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:34,239
if they would have i swear

2661
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:36,080
another 20 minutes

2662
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:37,520
we might not have ever known about

2663
01:53:40,550 --> 01:53:38,880
roswell

2664
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:40,560
and it would have been a totally

2665
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:42,560
different situation but

2666
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:46,000
out uh uh got the press release out it

2667
01:53:49,669 --> 01:53:47,599
made it to the paper

2668
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:49,679
and and things are different today but

2669
01:53:53,910 --> 01:53:51,840
isn't it fright doesn't it kind of just

2670
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:53,920
make your stomach turn just a little bit

2671
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:56,320
how we were just literally minutes away

2672
01:54:00,950 --> 01:53:58,800
from not knowing anything about roswell

2673
01:54:01,830 --> 01:54:00,960
well you know i'll tell you something

2674
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:01,840
that

2675
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:04,560
from the time i started uh trying to get

2676
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:06,960
to the bottom of the animal mutilations

2677
01:54:12,070 --> 01:54:09,360
in complete and total innocence

2678
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:12,080
when i started the first research in

2679
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:14,800
september of 79

2680
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:16,560
and

2681
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:17,679
could see

2682
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:19,119
how upset

2683
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:21,760
law enforcement was they were the ones

2684
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:24,239
in the trenches so to speak dealing with

2685
01:54:28,709 --> 01:54:26,800
the animal bodies and they were the ones

2686
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:28,719
telling me linda the perpetrators are

2687
01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:31,280
creatures from outer space and i was as

2688
01:54:35,830 --> 01:54:34,800
shocked as anybody could possibly be

2689
01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:35,840
and

2690
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:37,040
from

2691
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:39,760
on all these different levels

2692
01:54:46,870 --> 01:54:43,199
of shock about subjects and coming to

2693
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:46,880
your point that if there had not been

2694
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:47,840
them

2695
01:54:53,669 --> 01:54:51,040
let's just call it a historic uh

2696
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:53,679
oversight and the

2697
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:55,520
uh raf uh

2698
01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:58,159
blanchard he did what he would do what

2699
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:00,560
anybody would be doing if they weren't

2700
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:02,800
on the inside being told not to

2701
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:04,960
so let's say that it was an innocent

2702
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:06,480
error

2703
01:55:12,790 --> 01:55:09,440
that over all of these years the one

2704
01:55:15,109 --> 01:55:12,800
thing that i have come to see

2705
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:15,119
is that

2706
01:55:20,149 --> 01:55:17,760
there grows inside

2707
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:20,159
of a lot of people

2708
01:55:25,510 --> 01:55:22,719
a kind of resentment

2709
01:55:27,669 --> 01:55:25,520
about the policies of lies

2710
01:55:29,830 --> 01:55:27,679
about something so

2711
01:55:32,470 --> 01:55:29,840
significant and profound

2712
01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:32,480
as we're not alone in the universe and

2713
01:55:36,310 --> 01:55:34,480
that other life forms have been coming

2714
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,320
and going on this planet

2715
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:38,159
not just for decades

2716
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:40,400
not just for centuries i think for

2717
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:42,960
thousands millions of years

2718
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:44,320
and that

2719
01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:46,480
all of the confluence

2720
01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:50,400
of what happened in world war ii

2721
01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:52,960
on the human level

2722
01:55:57,669 --> 01:55:56,000
with this overlay of what our own

2723
01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:57,679
government called extraterrestrial

2724
01:56:03,270 --> 01:56:00,639
biological entities

2725
01:56:05,830 --> 01:56:03,280
on top of that war

2726
01:56:08,310 --> 01:56:05,840
and that those people churchill general

2727
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:08,320
eisenhower before he became president

2728
01:56:12,149 --> 01:56:10,239
president truman

2729
01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:12,159
they were handling

2730
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:14,639
or trying to cope

2731
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:15,679
with

2732
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:21,350
serious

2733
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:24,159
issues having to do with

2734
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:27,119
what happens if world war ii

2735
01:56:31,510 --> 01:56:29,599
the nazis had won and hitler

2736
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:31,520
could run the world

2737
01:56:37,430 --> 01:56:34,800
what happens if the public finds out

2738
01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:37,440
about extraterrestrials on top of what's

2739
01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:39,360
just happened in world war ii everything

2740
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,719
will fall apart that was their that was

2741
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:44,800
apparently what they were worried about

2742
01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:47,199
that may not have been the case it may

2743
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:49,199
it may be that we would have then grown

2744
01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:51,119
up in the last

2745
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,480
60 years

2746
01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:54,239
on a stronger

2747
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:55,280
planet

2748
01:57:00,550 --> 01:56:57,599
maybe without wars if we have been told

2749
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:00,560
the truth but nevertheless i can sort of

2750
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:04,159
go i can see from one lens

2751
01:57:06,709 --> 01:57:04,960
that

2752
01:57:08,870 --> 01:57:06,719
if you're in the government and you're

2753
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,880
trying to deal with those kinds of

2754
01:57:13,910 --> 01:57:10,719
profound issues

2755
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:13,920
that in a kind of super patriotic lens

2756
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:15,760
inside their minds

2757
01:57:22,149 --> 01:57:19,840
that having policies of denials and lies

2758
01:57:23,830 --> 01:57:22,159
becomes

2759
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:23,840
very uh

2760
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:25,679
very important

2761
01:57:30,790 --> 01:57:28,320
almost at that profound level inside of

2762
01:57:33,910 --> 01:57:30,800
people this is our duty

2763
01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:33,920
we must do this to save not just the

2764
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:35,920
united states but the world you can sort

2765
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:39,520
of get into that mindset right sure but

2766
01:57:42,470 --> 01:57:41,199
what i'm coming to

2767
01:57:44,790 --> 01:57:42,480
is that

2768
01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:44,800
what i have seen happen

2769
01:57:47,990 --> 01:57:46,880
is how many people

2770
01:57:50,390 --> 01:57:48,000
have beef

2771
01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:50,400
three or four before they died

2772
01:57:53,189 --> 01:57:51,599
that

2773
01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:53,199
they were so

2774
01:57:58,470 --> 01:57:56,080
upset they became so

2775
01:58:03,990 --> 01:57:58,480
uh almost sickened

2776
01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:04,000
by realizing that their entire life work

2777
01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:06,800
was on something that was real

2778
01:58:09,910 --> 01:58:08,880
something that all of us should know

2779
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,920
about

2780
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:12,560
but because if you sign non-disclosure

2781
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:14,480
agreements and you sign your life away

2782
01:58:20,950 --> 01:58:17,679
to agencies you really cannot talk or

2783
01:58:22,229 --> 01:58:20,960
you will have terrible repercussions

2784
01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:22,239
that they

2785
01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:24,960
wanted before they died

2786
01:58:28,709 --> 01:58:26,800
to speak the truth about

2787
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:28,719
extraterrestrials

2788
01:58:32,390 --> 01:58:30,080
and so

2789
01:58:36,709 --> 01:58:32,400
over time even if

2790
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:36,719
the raf uh leak we'll call it that uh

2791
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:38,320
had not happened

2792
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,119
i am convinced there would have been

2793
01:58:44,629 --> 01:58:43,679
other leaks by people who i've seen it

2794
01:58:45,910 --> 01:58:44,639
happen

2795
01:58:48,310 --> 01:58:45,920
they become

2796
01:58:49,350 --> 01:58:48,320
it's almost as if

2797
01:58:52,070 --> 01:58:49,360
living

2798
01:58:54,310 --> 01:58:52,080
with something that's that big

2799
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:54,320
a lie about the fact that we're not

2800
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:56,320
alone in this universe and never have

2801
01:58:59,270 --> 01:58:57,199
been

2802
01:59:00,550 --> 01:58:59,280
and all of these men especially in

2803
01:59:03,350 --> 01:59:00,560
military

2804
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:03,360
have had so many interactions with

2805
01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:06,159
aspects of this phenomenon

2806
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:09,280
and they know for a fact but they are

2807
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:11,440
sworn never to speak but they reach

2808
01:59:17,830 --> 01:59:13,840
points in their lives and they feel like

2809
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:17,840
they must speak before they die

2810
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,320
you know linda i was thinking earlier

2811
01:59:23,750 --> 01:59:22,560
today before the show i want to throw

2812
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:23,760
this out that we're at the top of the

2813
01:59:27,109 --> 01:59:25,440
hour i'm just going to say fade to black

2814
01:59:28,550 --> 01:59:27,119
bespoke radio for the masses we are

2815
01:59:31,109 --> 01:59:28,560
speaking with the one and only linda

2816
01:59:33,189 --> 01:59:31,119
moulton howe i'm your host jimmy church

2817
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:33,199
uh we're talking about a variety of

2818
01:59:37,430 --> 01:59:35,119
subjects tonight we just covered randall

2819
01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:37,440
shim and john burroughs and his press

2820
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,400
release that he did earlier this week

2821
01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:42,239
actually yeah i guess earlier this week

2822
01:59:47,910 --> 01:59:44,639
because we're still on march 3rd right

2823
01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:51,910
but sunday february 22nd yeah 22nd uh

2824
01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:53,360
but i was thinking

2825
01:59:58,709 --> 01:59:56,560
do you want to have uh

2826
02:00:01,189 --> 01:59:58,719
wouldn't you love to have the greatest

2827
02:00:02,950 --> 02:00:01,199
most listened to radio show in the world

2828
02:00:04,870 --> 02:00:02,960
wouldn't that be awesome linda and this

2829
02:00:06,870 --> 02:00:04,880
is how we would do it

2830
02:00:08,950 --> 02:00:06,880
all we have to do is stream our phone

2831
02:00:10,550 --> 02:00:08,960
conversations that's all we would have

2832
02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:10,560
to do that's all we would have to do

2833
02:00:14,310 --> 02:00:13,040
think about that we wouldn't have to do

2834
02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:14,320
anything we wouldn't have to run

2835
02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:16,000
commercials we wouldn't even have to

2836
02:00:25,669 --> 02:00:22,709
no i just want you i want you to pause

2837
02:00:27,910 --> 02:00:25,679
for a second and contemplate that it's

2838
02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:27,920
not a bad idea is it

2839
02:00:32,709 --> 02:00:29,520
that

2840
02:00:35,830 --> 02:00:32,719
people

2841
02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:35,840
every country

2842
02:00:38,870 --> 02:00:37,040
who

2843
02:00:41,430 --> 02:00:38,880
have been exposed to something and they

2844
02:00:43,270 --> 02:00:41,440
know that we are

2845
02:00:45,430 --> 02:00:43,280
talking about something that is very

2846
02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:45,440
substantial and important but

2847
02:00:49,669 --> 02:00:47,679
unfortunately because

2848
02:00:51,350 --> 02:00:49,679
of skilled counter intelligence over the

2849
02:00:53,669 --> 02:00:51,360
last 60 years

2850
02:00:57,030 --> 02:00:53,679
the vast majority of people in all the

2851
02:01:00,709 --> 02:00:57,040
nations have been conditioned to think

2852
02:01:04,310 --> 02:01:00,719
that there are no ufos there are no et's

2853
02:01:06,390 --> 02:01:04,320
so we are on a concocted planet right a

2854
02:01:09,270 --> 02:01:06,400
radio broadcast of our telephone

2855
02:01:13,189 --> 02:01:09,280
conversations might be of interest and

2856
02:01:15,669 --> 02:01:13,199
be totally relevant to maybe one percent

2857
02:01:17,030 --> 02:01:15,679
of the population

2858
02:01:20,310 --> 02:01:17,040
and there

2859
02:01:23,109 --> 02:01:20,320
there comes brings into focus

2860
02:01:25,830 --> 02:01:23,119
what is a gigantic problem on the earth

2861
02:01:27,830 --> 02:01:25,840
in addition to all the other problems

2862
02:01:29,830 --> 02:01:27,840
is that we

2863
02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:29,840
are living

2864
02:01:33,189 --> 02:01:32,159
a concocted lie

2865
02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:33,199
and that

2866
02:01:38,550 --> 02:01:36,960
maybe if everybody knew at least the

2867
02:01:40,790 --> 02:01:38,560
basic facts

2868
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:40,800
about the true history

2869
02:01:45,830 --> 02:01:42,800
what's out there

2870
02:01:47,430 --> 02:01:45,840
uh most of it i don't think is a threat

2871
02:01:51,030 --> 02:01:47,440
i really do not

2872
02:01:54,229 --> 02:01:51,040
and that we somehow have to get past

2873
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:54,239
all of this political inertia

2874
02:01:59,189 --> 02:01:55,920
that has been

2875
02:02:00,629 --> 02:01:59,199
reinforced by very skilled counter

2876
02:02:03,990 --> 02:02:00,639
intelligence

2877
02:02:06,470 --> 02:02:04,000
that it doesn't exist and people are

2878
02:02:09,830 --> 02:02:06,480
they say are happier going forward in

2879
02:02:11,109 --> 02:02:09,840
life not knowing anything about et's

2880
02:02:14,310 --> 02:02:11,119
well

2881
02:02:16,070 --> 02:02:14,320
i fundamentally think that we're in a

2882
02:02:18,550 --> 02:02:16,080
cosmos where

2883
02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:18,560
the truth matters

2884
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:22,000
and it matters in a kind of infinity way

2885
02:02:28,229 --> 02:02:25,440
and that we need to have all of the

2886
02:02:30,310 --> 02:02:28,239
truth to almost sort of bring the earth

2887
02:02:32,629 --> 02:02:30,320
back into resonance with the divine

2888
02:02:34,430 --> 02:02:32,639
field in some odd way if you know what i

2889
02:02:36,870 --> 02:02:34,440
mean yes there's something so

2890
02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:36,880
fundamentally wrong here

2891
02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:38,560
well you know and when

2892
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:41,360
when the argument uh comes from the

2893
02:02:45,589 --> 02:02:43,760
other side not only skeptics but the

2894
02:02:48,790 --> 02:02:45,599
government in general when they're in

2895
02:02:49,669 --> 02:02:48,800
this denial pattern you know prove to us

2896
02:02:52,790 --> 02:02:49,679
that

2897
02:02:55,910 --> 02:02:52,800
real

2898
02:02:58,709 --> 02:02:55,920
that isn't the case anymore linda

2899
02:03:01,750 --> 02:02:58,719
the the argument coming right back is

2900
02:03:03,430 --> 02:03:01,760
prove to me that they're not

2901
02:03:04,870 --> 02:03:03,440
that's proved to me that they're not

2902
02:03:08,629 --> 02:03:04,880
coming here

2903
02:03:11,830 --> 02:03:08,639
yeah and now if we jump out even further

2904
02:03:13,430 --> 02:03:11,840
into what's happening in our own solar

2905
02:03:16,870 --> 02:03:13,440
system right now

2906
02:03:18,470 --> 02:03:16,880
uh this look they're calling it a dwarf

2907
02:03:20,149 --> 02:03:18,480
planet series

2908
02:03:21,750 --> 02:03:20,159
this is between

2909
02:03:24,550 --> 02:03:21,760
mars and jupiter

2910
02:03:28,629 --> 02:03:24,560
and this is where the dawn

2911
02:03:32,229 --> 02:03:28,639
spacecraft from nasa jpl is going to go

2912
02:03:35,270 --> 02:03:32,239
into orbit by the end of this week it

2913
02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:35,280
will be spiraling down and here we are

2914
02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:38,080
getting these provocative photographs

2915
02:03:43,189 --> 02:03:41,040
where uh scientists involved are saying

2916
02:03:46,310 --> 02:03:43,199
they really don't understand what this

2917
02:03:47,589 --> 02:03:46,320
is and these are those two bright spots

2918
02:03:50,950 --> 02:03:47,599
in a crater

2919
02:03:52,470 --> 02:03:50,960
and they are so bright and they've uh

2920
02:03:54,790 --> 02:03:52,480
the scientists have offered the

2921
02:03:57,189 --> 02:03:54,800
possibility of two things

2922
02:04:00,070 --> 02:03:57,199
uh sun reflection

2923
02:04:01,030 --> 02:04:00,080
on ice in this crater

2924
02:04:04,790 --> 02:04:01,040
or

2925
02:04:08,550 --> 02:04:04,800
some kind of i think they're called uh

2926
02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:08,560
volcanoes of icy water from underneath

2927
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:11,040
the problem is in they've also been

2928
02:04:16,470 --> 02:04:13,440
showing these uh videos

2929
02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:16,480
as the series is rotating it's about the

2930
02:04:22,149 --> 02:04:19,199
size of texas but it's round if you know

2931
02:04:24,790 --> 02:04:22,159
what i mean in terms of the surface area

2932
02:04:26,870 --> 02:04:24,800
if you turn texas into a ball it's about

2933
02:04:28,070 --> 02:04:26,880
that size

2934
02:04:32,790 --> 02:04:28,080
if

2935
02:04:34,149 --> 02:04:32,800
keep showing these bright bright

2936
02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:34,159
reflections

2937
02:04:45,030 --> 02:04:35,840
not changing

2938
02:04:48,390 --> 02:04:47,430
the first time i heard the reflection

2939
02:04:50,229 --> 02:04:48,400
thing

2940
02:04:51,109 --> 02:04:50,239
and i'm looking at it i'm like wait a

2941
02:04:53,350 --> 02:04:51,119
minute

2942
02:04:55,910 --> 02:04:53,360
you can see the shadow here

2943
02:04:57,669 --> 02:04:55,920
the sun is coming from

2944
02:05:00,870 --> 02:04:57,679
the left i'm just saying left for you

2945
02:05:03,109 --> 02:05:00,880
know in in relation to the the picture

2946
02:05:05,750 --> 02:05:03,119
but it's not coming straight on there is

2947
02:05:07,750 --> 02:05:05,760
no reflection going if there the

2948
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:07,760
reflection would come from another angle

2949
02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:10,000
only if the sunlight would even get out

2950
02:05:14,629 --> 02:05:12,400
there you know that's another issue

2951
02:05:16,790 --> 02:05:14,639
to cause that kind of bright reflection

2952
02:05:19,669 --> 02:05:16,800
and so anyway when you're watching the

2953
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:19,679
rotation that you're referring to the

2954
02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:22,719
thing is lit up in the dark side too

2955
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:24,880
and as it rotates

2956
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:27,440
but that is the question yeah

2957
02:05:30,870 --> 02:05:28,320
i mean

2958
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:30,880
what brainiac did that press release is

2959
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:32,480
all i'm saying you know they didn't

2960
02:05:37,589 --> 02:05:35,360
think through that one at all i yes and

2961
02:05:40,149 --> 02:05:37,599
i bring this up only

2962
02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:40,159
in the fact that there may be some

2963
02:05:45,830 --> 02:05:43,679
wonderful uh new uh cosmic mystery out

2964
02:05:47,589 --> 02:05:45,840
there that will be solved and we will

2965
02:05:51,270 --> 02:05:47,599
learn something about

2966
02:05:52,390 --> 02:05:51,280
this dwarf planet series and it will add

2967
02:05:55,589 --> 02:05:52,400
to our

2968
02:05:56,709 --> 02:05:55,599
astronomic planetary body knowledge

2969
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:56,719
but

2970
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:59,440
it is so extraordinarily bright and

2971
02:06:07,589 --> 02:06:05,510
and so far there isn't a really solid

2972
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:07,599
scientific explanation

2973
02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:11,040
and so here is a story to keep watching

2974
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:13,360
out of curiosity and do it with that

2975
02:06:16,709 --> 02:06:15,040
stereoscopic

2976
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:16,719
it could be pure

2977
02:06:20,870 --> 02:06:19,599
new astronomy discovery

2978
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:20,880
or

2979
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:22,480
question mark

2980
02:06:26,950 --> 02:06:24,880
is there anything about this or any of

2981
02:06:30,310 --> 02:06:26,960
some of these stories that pop up about

2982
02:06:33,030 --> 02:06:30,320
strange mysteries in our solar system

2983
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:33,040
that they do they have any relationship

2984
02:06:38,470 --> 02:06:35,840
to this other phenomena which we all oh

2985
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:38,480
we really do know exists

2986
02:06:42,950 --> 02:06:40,400
and that it has been interacting with

2987
02:06:45,990 --> 02:06:42,960
this planet for a long time and that we

2988
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:46,000
know what we know from

2989
02:06:51,589 --> 02:06:48,480
human abductees and leakers

2990
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:51,599
and that the time feels right on that i

2991
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:53,280
guess i'm going to turn this around and

2992
02:06:59,430 --> 02:06:56,400
ask you does the time seem right

2993
02:07:02,390 --> 02:06:59,440
to you jimmy and even with all of the

2994
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:02,400
chaos in the middle east and the wars

2995
02:07:09,189 --> 02:07:05,679
that the time is here now for everybody

2996
02:07:12,709 --> 02:07:09,199
to be told the truth sort of reset the

2997
02:07:16,069 --> 02:07:12,719
planet and see if we could go forward in

2998
02:07:20,709 --> 02:07:16,079
perhaps even less war yes i think it

2999
02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:20,719
would be a big pressure valve release

3000
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:22,800
that's what it would be it would it

3001
02:07:29,510 --> 02:07:26,800
would have a serious calming effect

3002
02:07:32,950 --> 02:07:29,520
my cousin said to me who is not a

3003
02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:32,960
ufologist he he's not he but

3004
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:34,320
you know he's fascinated with the

3005
02:07:39,189 --> 02:07:37,119
subject but he's not where we are in it

3006
02:07:42,790 --> 02:07:39,199
but he said one thing to me that

3007
02:07:45,910 --> 02:07:42,800
that really struck home and he said

3008
02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:45,920
that disclosure finding out what would

3009
02:07:52,550 --> 02:07:49,199
be worse for planet earth for humanity

3010
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:52,560
would be to find out that we are alone

3011
02:07:57,589 --> 02:07:55,040
it would crush us it would crush our

3012
02:07:59,430 --> 02:07:57,599
very spirit and and we wouldn't have

3013
02:08:03,109 --> 02:07:59,440
anything to live for

3014
02:08:06,310 --> 02:08:03,119
as a as a species as a planet as a whole

3015
02:08:09,030 --> 02:08:06,320
what would give us hope for the future

3016
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:09,040
is to find out finally that we are not

3017
02:08:15,430 --> 02:08:12,320
alone and we have a reason to explore we

3018
02:08:17,750 --> 02:08:15,440
have a reason to to move forward and i

3019
02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:17,760
thought that that was absolutely

3020
02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:20,000
fascinating and

3021
02:08:23,830 --> 02:08:21,440
isn't that a really

3022
02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:23,840
really great way to look at it

3023
02:08:28,709 --> 02:08:26,560
yeah yeah i kind of think that spirit of

3024
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:28,719
the west and getting to the moon and

3025
02:08:34,069 --> 02:08:31,440
getting to mars it is fundamental to

3026
02:08:36,470 --> 02:08:34,079
something in the human soul itself and

3027
02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:36,480
that is why i think interstellar

3028
02:08:43,030 --> 02:08:39,119
had the impact on me and others and when

3029
02:08:45,669 --> 02:08:43,040
i saw that film it was in albuquerque uh

3030
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:45,679
when it had opened interstellar and saw

3031
02:08:50,390 --> 02:08:47,040
it in imax

3032
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:50,400
and the idea that the earth was being

3033
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:53,440
trashed is basically what happened

3034
02:08:58,069 --> 02:08:55,199
whether uh

3035
02:09:00,870 --> 02:08:58,079
food everything was down to one strain

3036
02:09:03,830 --> 02:09:00,880
or so of wheat uh things were dying out

3037
02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:03,840
on the earth and so uh the interstellar

3038
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:07,920
launch is one of those let's go west and

3039
02:09:13,750 --> 02:09:10,159
see if we can find a new place to live

3040
02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:13,760
idea right and then to realize

3041
02:09:18,390 --> 02:09:16,560
the movie is so impactful and so many

3042
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:18,400
levels having to do

3043
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:20,560
with a reality check

3044
02:09:22,870 --> 02:09:21,520
that

3045
02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:22,880
they went

3046
02:09:26,950 --> 02:09:24,800
uh to people who haven't seen it i won't

3047
02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:26,960
go into a lot of details but one of the

3048
02:09:32,310 --> 02:09:28,320
planets

3049
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:32,320
was very uh close to a large massive

3050
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:34,880
body and it had liquid on the surface

3051
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:37,440
but because of the gravitational pull

3052
02:09:42,550 --> 02:09:39,360
they uh water

3053
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:42,560
would go up into this mild high uh

3054
02:09:47,750 --> 02:09:45,360
slashing back and forth on this planet

3055
02:09:50,390 --> 02:09:47,760
and that this would be unlivable and

3056
02:09:52,709 --> 02:09:50,400
another one was an icy snowball and it

3057
02:09:54,069 --> 02:09:52,719
would be unlivable in terms of what we

3058
02:09:57,270 --> 02:09:54,079
know on earth

3059
02:10:01,109 --> 02:09:57,280
and it it gave you this feeling that

3060
02:10:03,350 --> 02:10:01,119
humanity is going to try to survive no

3061
02:10:05,270 --> 02:10:03,360
matter what comes

3062
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:05,280
and that the

3063
02:10:09,589 --> 02:10:06,239
earth

3064
02:10:12,069 --> 02:10:09,599
is so wonderful and so perfect that if

3065
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:12,079
you walk out of interstellar after

3066
02:10:16,709 --> 02:10:14,639
seeing all of this effort to find

3067
02:10:17,990 --> 02:10:16,719
another place because we had trashed

3068
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:18,000
earth

3069
02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:19,199
you just

3070
02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:23,119
love the sky and the sun and the water

3071
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:26,560
and the animals it was like a whole new

3072
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:28,480
look at this planet

3073
02:10:33,109 --> 02:10:30,159
that we must

3074
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:33,119
we must preserve and cherish life here

3075
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:36,400
because it really is the only lifeboat

3076
02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:39,040
for the vast majority of humans yeah you

3077
02:10:43,750 --> 02:10:41,360
know what i do uh

3078
02:10:45,350 --> 02:10:43,760
when this is how my mind works when i

3079
02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:45,360
fly

3080
02:10:49,189 --> 02:10:47,119
you live in l.a it's nothing but

3081
02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:49,199
concrete for hundreds of miles north

3082
02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:51,040
south east west that's all it is just

3083
02:10:55,030 --> 02:10:52,719
concrete miles and miles and miles of

3084
02:10:58,149 --> 02:10:55,040
concrete but when you you jump on a

3085
02:11:00,870 --> 02:10:58,159
plane and you get out of this congestion

3086
02:11:03,669 --> 02:11:00,880
and just fly to new york or fly to miami

3087
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:03,679
you know fly across the united states

3088
02:11:09,589 --> 02:11:06,320
and you look at the vast amount of

3089
02:11:11,990 --> 02:11:09,599
beauty that is underneath it's not we

3090
02:11:13,990 --> 02:11:12,000
haven't we haven't crossed the point of

3091
02:11:16,069 --> 02:11:14,000
no return is what i'm saying we still

3092
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:16,079
have a lot of beauty here

3093
02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:19,440
uh there's a a lot of nature still left

3094
02:11:23,750 --> 02:11:22,400
we haven't ruined it all just yet you

3095
02:11:24,950 --> 02:11:23,760
know and i'm always

3096
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:24,960
just like you're saying i'm always

3097
02:11:29,430 --> 02:11:27,199
hopeful i'm i am definitely the glasses

3098
02:11:31,189 --> 02:11:29,440
half full guy and when i fly across the

3099
02:11:33,830 --> 02:11:31,199
united states and i see the beauty and i

3100
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:33,840
see the space in between the cities

3101
02:11:38,069 --> 02:11:36,000
it it i i still feel like it's it's

3102
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:38,079
still okay we can still pump the brakes

3103
02:11:40,149 --> 02:11:39,360
on this bus

3104
02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:40,159
and

3105
02:11:44,870 --> 02:11:42,320
everything will be okay yeah but there

3106
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:44,880
are sad realities like there was just a

3107
02:11:51,189 --> 02:11:47,119
brand new science report

3108
02:11:53,270 --> 02:11:51,199
that some of the gulls on the west coast

3109
02:11:54,550 --> 02:11:53,280
60 percent

3110
02:11:57,189 --> 02:11:54,560
decline

3111
02:11:59,990 --> 02:11:57,199
in the population of gulls in just the

3112
02:12:01,669 --> 02:12:00,000
last approximately 15 years

3113
02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:01,679
and the reason is

3114
02:12:08,390 --> 02:12:05,440
the gulls do not have enough fish to eat

3115
02:12:11,589 --> 02:12:08,400
that means that the fish populations

3116
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:11,599
have been depleted so badly it isn't as

3117
02:12:16,069 --> 02:12:14,239
if they're all migrating north or south

3118
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:16,079
in other temperature bands it's

3119
02:12:20,709 --> 02:12:18,880
literally a count and the number of fish

3120
02:12:23,589 --> 02:12:20,719
are going down

3121
02:12:26,470 --> 02:12:23,599
goals the idea that there would be a 60

3122
02:12:27,430 --> 02:12:26,480
decline in seagulls

3123
02:12:30,149 --> 02:12:27,440
and

3124
02:12:33,189 --> 02:12:30,159
these are the kinds of statements that

3125
02:12:34,629 --> 02:12:33,199
are coming out of hard data on a regular

3126
02:12:36,069 --> 02:12:34,639
basis now

3127
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:36,079
and it makes

3128
02:12:42,229 --> 02:12:38,400
this sense of angst

3129
02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:42,239
that we have to come to some kind of

3130
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:43,840
better balance

3131
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:46,320
with this big planet

3132
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:48,960
it or we are going to lose it

3133
02:12:52,550 --> 02:12:51,440
what about monarch butterflies look at

3134
02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:52,560
that

3135
02:13:00,310 --> 02:12:57,040
oh it's it's so sad there are monarch

3136
02:13:02,950 --> 02:13:00,320
butterflies that will exist at least as

3137
02:13:04,790 --> 02:13:02,960
far as i know that all monarchs will not

3138
02:13:06,950 --> 02:13:04,800
go extinct at least not for the

3139
02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:06,960
foreseeable future but

3140
02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:09,119
the monarchs that have made

3141
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:11,920
the complicated beautiful cyclic

3142
02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:13,280
migration

3143
02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:15,760
to that area in mexico

3144
02:13:21,350 --> 02:13:17,920
year after year covering they used to

3145
02:13:23,750 --> 02:13:21,360
cover something like 90 acres or

3146
02:13:26,629 --> 02:13:23,760
huge range and

3147
02:13:28,069 --> 02:13:26,639
solid beautiful orange and black monarch

3148
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:28,079
butterflies

3149
02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:30,719
and then they had this complicated

3150
02:13:34,870 --> 02:13:32,800
migration where they would come back up

3151
02:13:37,109 --> 02:13:34,880
through across the gulf and through

3152
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:37,119
texas and there would be a double

3153
02:13:41,990 --> 02:13:38,880
generation i mean it's yeah yeah

3154
02:13:44,149 --> 02:13:42,000
quadruple generation yeah you you live

3155
02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:44,159
and die during the migration yeah

3156
02:13:49,830 --> 02:13:47,040
amazing yeah and passing on that

3157
02:13:51,910 --> 02:13:49,840
particular generation through another

3158
02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:51,920
and all of it all part of the same

3159
02:13:57,589 --> 02:13:55,040
migratory cycle until another one begins

3160
02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:57,599
it is really one of those phenomena that

3161
02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:00,320
is both beautiful and enchanting and it

3162
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:03,280
haunts your mind the idea where once

3163
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:04,800
upon a time

3164
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:07,920
the size of that migration was just like

3165
02:14:12,709 --> 02:14:10,800
this orange and black gigantic tapestry

3166
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:12,719
in the sky that would come down on those

3167
02:14:16,310 --> 02:14:14,560
trees in mexico

3168
02:14:18,790 --> 02:14:16,320
and today

3169
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:18,800
it is so small

3170
02:14:25,669 --> 02:14:22,800
it so many are gone and now

3171
02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:25,679
if we can't get milkweed that's what

3172
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:27,520
they like to eat

3173
02:14:33,350 --> 02:14:30,480
milkweed has been killed by pesticides

3174
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:33,360
throughout all the migratory roots

3175
02:14:39,189 --> 02:14:37,119
and we have gone overboard on pesticides

3176
02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:39,199
and we need that's another area if we

3177
02:14:42,310 --> 02:14:41,520
could come back into balance

3178
02:14:44,709 --> 02:14:42,320
where

3179
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:44,719
uh one scientist i talked to has been

3180
02:14:50,470 --> 02:14:48,159
trying to get local areas especially on

3181
02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:50,480
the migration route of these uh

3182
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:52,719
beautiful butterflies

3183
02:14:59,589 --> 02:14:56,000
to go out and encourage children in

3184
02:15:02,709 --> 02:14:59,599
school in junior high in high school

3185
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:02,719
go into your neighborhoods find alleys

3186
02:15:07,910 --> 02:15:04,800
talk with people and say

3187
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:07,920
if we could plant milkweed going all

3188
02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:11,040
along let's say this particular street

3189
02:15:16,950 --> 02:15:14,239
or the sidewalks and start getting areas

3190
02:15:19,030 --> 02:15:16,960
of cities and towns that might not be

3191
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:19,040
being used are not going to be

3192
02:15:25,510 --> 02:15:22,000
threatening any crop so they won't be in

3193
02:15:28,709 --> 02:15:25,520
the road or in the way of pesticides

3194
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:28,719
but if we could start filling up spaces

3195
02:15:33,910 --> 02:15:30,960
all over where these beautiful

3196
02:15:37,030 --> 02:15:33,920
butterflies need the milkweed

3197
02:15:40,229 --> 02:15:37,040
we might be able as humans to bring

3198
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:40,239
those gorgeous monarchs back

3199
02:15:45,189 --> 02:15:43,599
simply by starting a campaign everywhere

3200
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:45,199
to plant

3201
02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:46,880
the milkweed

3202
02:15:51,189 --> 02:15:49,280
these are the kinds of things that if we

3203
02:15:54,629 --> 02:15:51,199
could get kids

3204
02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:54,639
from age six on in schools

3205
02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:56,239
have school

3206
02:15:59,669 --> 02:15:57,280
sort of

3207
02:16:01,669 --> 02:15:59,679
lined up with constructive things that

3208
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:01,679
kids would feel like they were doing

3209
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:04,480
something important we might change a

3210
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:07,440
lot of problems there in the evolution

3211
02:16:11,350 --> 02:16:09,199
of youth too

3212
02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:11,360
you know uh what we're gonna do real

3213
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:13,280
quick if you don't mind i've got about

3214
02:16:18,390 --> 02:16:16,480
uh 50 questions lined up here in twitter

3215
02:16:21,109 --> 02:16:18,400
and i've ignored all of that all night

3216
02:16:23,750 --> 02:16:21,119
and also linda we did it once again

3217
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:23,760
we didn't do dragonfly drones

3218
02:16:28,629 --> 02:16:25,840
we won't do another show we didn't do it

3219
02:16:30,629 --> 02:16:28,639
i can't i can't i can't believe it

3220
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:30,639
what did i say to you today i want to do

3221
02:16:35,110 --> 02:16:32,479
dragonfly but we won't get to it and

3222
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:35,120
here we are we didn't get to it uh yeah

3223
02:16:40,230 --> 02:16:38,000
we have to uh uh we have to do dragonfly

3224
02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:40,240
and we'll uh we'll get you back before

3225
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:42,559
uh contact in the desert let me let me

3226
02:16:46,549 --> 02:16:44,719
turn here i have so many questions here

3227
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:46,559
on twitter uh

3228
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:49,200
what does this is from lauren robb uh

3229
02:16:55,910 --> 02:16:51,840
out of canada what does miss howe think

3230
02:16:57,669 --> 02:16:55,920
of the kodachrome roswell slides ooh

3231
02:16:58,950 --> 02:16:57,679
well that is a good question it's a

3232
02:17:01,429 --> 02:16:58,960
great question

3233
02:17:02,190 --> 02:17:01,439
i did uh this past week in fact you can

3234
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:02,200
go to

3235
02:17:05,990 --> 02:17:05,200
earthfiles.com right now and uh it's

3236
02:17:08,629 --> 02:17:06,000
under

3237
02:17:10,469 --> 02:17:08,639
uh let's say february 27th

3238
02:17:12,230 --> 02:17:10,479
and it was an interview that i did with

3239
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:12,240
jaime massan

3240
02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:16,080
and it was about what he sees with his

3241
02:17:22,230 --> 02:17:19,439
own eyes when he looks at the kodachrome

3242
02:17:25,870 --> 02:17:22,240
the two cro kodachrome slides

3243
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:25,880
and uh it was so interesting because

3244
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:30,240
jaime uh in talking with tom carrey and

3245
02:17:35,509 --> 02:17:31,439
don schmidt

3246
02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:35,519
uh those two were ufo investigators that

3247
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:36,240
took

3248
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:37,200
uh

3249
02:17:40,230 --> 02:17:39,439
well they've taken quite a while trying

3250
02:17:41,030 --> 02:17:40,240
to

3251
02:17:46,870 --> 02:17:41,040
that

3252
02:17:49,270 --> 02:17:46,880
kodachrome slides vintage 47-49

3253
02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:49,280
uh there was a

3254
02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:54,000
history done on the box of the person

3255
02:17:59,190 --> 02:17:56,559
who had uh

3256
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:59,200
they had had died hilda

3257
02:18:02,709 --> 02:18:00,479
blair ray

3258
02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:02,719
and she had been married to a geologist

3259
02:18:07,030 --> 02:18:05,280
and they had divorced and she died in

3260
02:18:09,429 --> 02:18:07,040
1988

3261
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:09,439
uh and for a very long time apparently

3262
02:18:15,429 --> 02:18:12,960
her possessions were not gone through by

3263
02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:15,439
anybody and it took about another 10

3264
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:16,479
years

3265
02:18:21,190 --> 02:18:19,519
uh for the i think it was somebody

3266
02:18:22,309 --> 02:18:21,200
cleaning the house

3267
02:18:28,469 --> 02:18:22,319
that

3268
02:18:31,270 --> 02:18:28,479
and

3269
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:31,280
eventually two of them

3270
02:18:37,030 --> 02:18:34,000
with what appears to be

3271
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:37,040
a three and a half to four foot

3272
02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:38,880
long

3273
02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:42,639
uh heimi says the skin is pinkish

3274
02:18:48,549 --> 02:18:43,920
gray

3275
02:18:49,669 --> 02:18:48,559
because of decomposition

3276
02:18:50,790 --> 02:18:49,679
there's no

3277
02:18:53,509 --> 02:18:50,800
dating

3278
02:18:56,629 --> 02:18:53,519
except that the kodachrome

3279
02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:56,639
slide is real they had that a reality

3280
02:19:02,549 --> 02:19:00,000
check with a historian with kodak

3281
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:02,559
who confirmed that this these slides

3282
02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:06,639
really are from that area now one of the

3283
02:19:12,549 --> 02:19:09,439
interesting things in the research

3284
02:19:15,190 --> 02:19:12,559
about the woman's uh

3285
02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:15,200
background who they found this box of

3286
02:19:21,429 --> 02:19:19,910
she was a

3287
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:21,439
in the 40s

3288
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:24,319
in that 47 that critical year

3289
02:19:27,349 --> 02:19:25,840
of what we'll call

3290
02:19:30,549 --> 02:19:27,359
the various

3291
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:30,559
non-human crashes and retrievals

3292
02:19:35,509 --> 02:19:33,439
uh she was a pilot

3293
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:35,519
she was an attorney

3294
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:38,399
and i think adan schmidt and tom kerry

3295
02:19:43,750 --> 02:19:41,200
uh have told uh in

3296
02:19:45,589 --> 02:19:43,760
a presentation in a conference that

3297
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:45,599
there is some indication that she may

3298
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:47,359
have been doing work

3299
02:19:55,030 --> 02:19:51,120
for an intelligence agency

3300
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:55,040
and her husband was a geologist

3301
02:19:59,710 --> 02:19:56,560
who seemed to

3302
02:20:03,510 --> 02:19:59,720
almost disappear from the scene after

3303
02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:03,520
1947 in an unusual way making their

3304
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:06,319
lives and their divorce and her

3305
02:20:11,670 --> 02:20:09,040
continuing life and this box with all of

3306
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:11,680
these coda chrome slides

3307
02:20:15,990 --> 02:20:13,439
quite interesting in the context of

3308
02:20:17,030 --> 02:20:16,000
their lives and in some of these coda

3309
02:20:19,429 --> 02:20:17,040
chrome

3310
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:19,439
uh slides you can go to earth files you

3311
02:20:22,550 --> 02:20:21,520
can see some of this yourself there is a

3312
02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:22,560
slide

3313
02:20:27,349 --> 02:20:24,880
of dwight d eisenhower with his wife

3314
02:20:29,910 --> 02:20:27,359
mamie and an unnamed couple

3315
02:20:32,630 --> 02:20:29,920
so now that's the context of these two

3316
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:32,640
slides and timey says

3317
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:34,399
it is

3318
02:20:40,469 --> 02:20:38,080
uh he agreed with the idea of childlike

3319
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:40,479
proportions of the body

3320
02:20:45,429 --> 02:20:43,120
said the head is not a gray

3321
02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:45,439
as we think of a gray with the big black

3322
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:46,479
eyes

3323
02:20:51,910 --> 02:20:48,640
but that it does have a head that is

3324
02:20:54,150 --> 02:20:51,920
larger in proportion to the smaller body

3325
02:20:57,670 --> 02:20:54,160
and that the eyes that they have

3326
02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:57,680
depicted at their website uh high

3327
02:21:01,349 --> 02:20:59,439
uh has a website

3328
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:01,359
now uh which is

3329
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:04,000
dedicated to his event that he's going

3330
02:21:08,230 --> 02:21:06,880
to uh call it i think it's called be

3331
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:08,240
witness

3332
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:10,240
on cinco de mayo

3333
02:21:17,110 --> 02:21:14,240
may 5th at the uh

3334
02:21:20,230 --> 02:21:17,120
the national auditorium in mexico city

3335
02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:20,240
holds 10 000 people

3336
02:21:26,950 --> 02:21:24,240
jaime is going to be joined by tom carey

3337
02:21:28,389 --> 02:21:26,960
don schmidt adam do which we did the

3338
02:21:29,190 --> 02:21:28,399
history on

3339
02:21:34,389 --> 02:21:29,200
uh

3340
02:21:35,510 --> 02:21:34,399
carol rosen and nasa astronaut edgar

3341
02:21:37,510 --> 02:21:35,520
mitchell

3342
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:37,520
they are all going to be there with

3343
02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:40,080
jaime it's going to be televised and

3344
02:21:43,110 --> 02:21:41,520
it's also going to be in this big

3345
02:21:46,070 --> 02:21:43,120
stadium

3346
02:21:49,750 --> 02:21:46,080
and what jaime wants to do and i guess

3347
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:49,760
this is why they have waited since uh

3348
02:21:53,349 --> 02:21:52,240
tom carrey and don smith have had these

3349
02:21:55,349 --> 02:21:53,359
slides

3350
02:21:57,990 --> 02:21:55,359
waiting in the wings

3351
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:58,000
that jaime decided that it was too

3352
02:22:03,670 --> 02:22:00,960
important to not present to a large

3353
02:22:04,710 --> 02:22:03,680
audience and perhaps even international

3354
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:04,720
web

3355
02:22:10,389 --> 02:22:07,840
and that they are working with a team

3356
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:10,399
that is going to try to take the details

3357
02:22:15,429 --> 02:22:12,000
of this small

3358
02:22:18,150 --> 02:22:15,439
being who has one eye was taken out

3359
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:18,160
apparently in the autopsy and the other

3360
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:21,040
eye is closed so they do not have any

3361
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:23,120
accurate uh

3362
02:22:27,349 --> 02:22:25,359
there's no accurate detail on what the

3363
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:27,359
eyes were like beyond the fact the

3364
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:30,880
sockets were bigger but not black lenses

3365
02:22:35,429 --> 02:22:34,240
and that the the very thin

3366
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:35,439
small

3367
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:38,080
entity that uh jaime has

3368
02:22:42,630 --> 02:22:40,080
on the website

3369
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:42,640
it is only a graphic illustration

3370
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:44,960
interpretation the green solid eyes

3371
02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:47,280
that's not what they have there

3372
02:22:53,110 --> 02:22:50,000
but they are going to take what they do

3373
02:22:57,349 --> 02:22:53,120
see in the two kodachromes of this

3374
02:23:00,710 --> 02:22:57,359
being that is inside of a transparent

3375
02:23:03,110 --> 02:23:00,720
uh lid like like it's inside of a

3376
02:23:05,349 --> 02:23:03,120
preservative case

3377
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:05,359
and he's going to

3378
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:07,840
present to the audience

3379
02:23:12,070 --> 02:23:10,160
holograms

3380
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:12,080
one or more

3381
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:15,600
so that people can see what a hologram

3382
02:23:20,550 --> 02:23:17,760
based on what they are measuring in

3383
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:20,560
these slides would look like

3384
02:23:25,910 --> 02:23:23,439
and he still says he does not

3385
02:23:27,670 --> 02:23:25,920
see in the slides what we would call a

3386
02:23:29,830 --> 02:23:27,680
gray

3387
02:23:33,590 --> 02:23:29,840
but historically

3388
02:23:35,750 --> 02:23:33,600
what is so interesting to me

3389
02:23:37,990 --> 02:23:35,760
in another one of the important

3390
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:38,000
documents that has been

3391
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:40,560
uh around for quite a while and is at

3392
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:43,840
majestic documents dot com and i have it

3393
02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:46,960
uh in in full at earth files

3394
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:49,600
there is the interplanetary phenomenon

3395
02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:52,640
unit document that was about the landing

3396
02:23:58,950 --> 02:23:56,000
zone two going back to that july second

3397
02:24:02,630 --> 02:23:58,960
to fifth time period when at least three

3398
02:24:05,990 --> 02:24:02,640
uh were found it says

3399
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:06,000
that it's describing bodies

3400
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:09,760
of non-humans recovered at landing zone

3401
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:11,040
two

3402
02:24:16,870 --> 02:24:13,920
which i believe was uh near the trinity

3403
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:16,880
site it appeared that none of the five

3404
02:24:22,469 --> 02:24:19,359
crew members survived entry into our

3405
02:24:25,510 --> 02:24:22,479
atmosphere due to unknown causes

3406
02:24:26,950 --> 02:24:25,520
it goes into dr debt left bronc doing an

3407
02:24:29,110 --> 02:24:26,960
autopsy

3408
02:24:30,710 --> 02:24:29,120
some of the anatomical differences that

3409
02:24:32,710 --> 02:24:30,720
they describe

3410
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:32,720
and here it says

3411
02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:35,520
their overall stature

3412
02:24:40,070 --> 02:24:38,080
reminds one of young

3413
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:40,080
children

3414
02:24:42,710 --> 02:24:41,200
further

3415
02:24:44,550 --> 02:24:42,720
glenn dennis

3416
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:44,560
was the mortician

3417
02:24:50,950 --> 02:24:48,800
in roswell in july of 1947

3418
02:24:54,630 --> 02:24:50,960
and long ago

3419
02:24:57,349 --> 02:24:54,640
he signed and a notarized affidavit that

3420
02:25:00,870 --> 02:24:57,359
was describing his discussion with a

3421
02:25:04,230 --> 02:25:00,880
woman who alleged that she was a nurse

3422
02:25:06,309 --> 02:25:04,240
and that she was at one of the autopsies

3423
02:25:08,830 --> 02:25:06,319
that uh they apparently did three

3424
02:25:11,190 --> 02:25:08,840
autopsies or were going to do three

3425
02:25:12,070 --> 02:25:11,200
autopsies and that

3426
02:25:13,349 --> 02:25:12,080
she

3427
02:25:15,590 --> 02:25:13,359
sketched

3428
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:15,600
for glenn dennis

3429
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:18,720
uh one night in roswell what she had

3430
02:25:22,150 --> 02:25:20,319
seen

3431
02:25:25,670 --> 02:25:22,160
showing a very

3432
02:25:28,710 --> 02:25:25,680
sort of childlike head and four fingers

3433
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:28,720
that had nubs on the end

3434
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:31,920
and she disappeared and her sketches

3435
02:25:35,510 --> 02:25:33,359
disappeared

3436
02:25:38,389 --> 02:25:35,520
and then uh

3437
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:38,399
on it was august 7 1991 that glenn

3438
02:25:42,469 --> 02:25:40,560
dennis did an affidavit did his own

3439
02:25:44,469 --> 02:25:42,479
sketches based on what he remembered the

3440
02:25:47,270 --> 02:25:44,479
nurse that showed him

3441
02:25:48,950 --> 02:25:47,280
and that she said that the smell

3442
02:25:50,309 --> 02:25:48,960
was so horrible

3443
02:25:53,270 --> 02:25:50,319
that they were trying to do the

3444
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:53,280
autopsies on these uh three

3445
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:54,800
small beings

3446
02:25:59,990 --> 02:25:57,280
in the hospital and that they smell was

3447
02:26:02,389 --> 02:26:00,000
overwhelming and the decision was made

3448
02:26:05,590 --> 02:26:02,399
to move to a hangar

3449
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:05,600
at the roswell army airfield to continue

3450
02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:08,319
the examination of these non-human

3451
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:09,760
bodies

3452
02:26:13,990 --> 02:26:11,680
well jaime

3453
02:26:16,950 --> 02:26:14,000
told me in an interview that i did on

3454
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:16,960
coast to coast this past week

3455
02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:20,000
that they had tracked down a man who is

3456
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:23,439
still alive 88 years old

3457
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:27,920
who was a young guy in the raf military

3458
02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:31,600
and that he ended up going into a hangar

3459
02:26:36,550 --> 02:26:33,280
where there

3460
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:36,560
he described the creature and was re uh

3461
02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:38,240
sort of reinforcing what they have in

3462
02:26:40,950 --> 02:26:40,080
those kodo chrome slides

3463
02:26:44,950 --> 02:26:40,960
said

3464
02:26:47,910 --> 02:26:44,960
the quote the kodachrome slide being

3465
02:26:51,429 --> 02:26:47,920
resembles what he remembers seeing in a

3466
02:26:53,429 --> 02:26:51,439
roswell army airfield hangar

3467
02:26:56,230 --> 02:26:53,439
and that the smell

3468
02:26:58,309 --> 02:26:56,240
was so bad that it made him want to

3469
02:27:02,389 --> 02:26:58,319
vomit so you have

3470
02:27:05,349 --> 02:27:02,399
the glenn dennis 1991 affidavit about

3471
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:05,359
the nurse describing this smell

3472
02:27:08,469 --> 02:27:07,600
and the small beings and you have the

3473
02:27:09,990 --> 02:27:08,479
glenn

3474
02:27:13,429 --> 02:27:10,000
dennis nurse

3475
02:27:16,230 --> 02:27:13,439
story in which she also

3476
02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:16,240
sketches if if this is all correct

3477
02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:19,120
sketches uh childlike proportions and

3478
02:27:23,429 --> 02:27:21,040
says the smell was so bad they had to

3479
02:27:24,630 --> 02:27:23,439
move the autopsy from the hospital to

3480
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:24,640
the hangar

3481
02:27:29,030 --> 02:27:26,160
these are

3482
02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:29,040
not what you call hard proof

3483
02:27:36,469 --> 02:27:33,040
but something very worthwhile i believe

3484
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:36,479
is here because these are vintage 47 to

3485
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:40,080
49 slides according to the historian at

3486
02:27:45,190 --> 02:27:43,520
rochester and that

3487
02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:45,200
on may 5th

3488
02:27:50,870 --> 02:27:47,760
uh 2015 cinco de mayo

3489
02:27:54,710 --> 02:27:50,880
from mexico city and jaime mason's uh

3490
02:27:56,950 --> 02:27:54,720
website and the uh auditorium

3491
02:27:59,429 --> 02:27:56,960
they're going to show the slides to

3492
02:28:02,070 --> 02:27:59,439
everybody for the first time and show

3493
02:28:04,630 --> 02:28:02,080
these holographic projections and then

3494
02:28:07,429 --> 02:28:04,640
uh you and i and everybody

3495
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:07,439
we will then have comparisons to make

3496
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:09,120
with what is already out there in the

3497
02:28:13,429 --> 02:28:10,560
literature so

3498
02:28:16,309 --> 02:28:13,439
this could be very interesting and one

3499
02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:16,319
final note

3500
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:17,359
tom

3501
02:28:22,469 --> 02:28:18,560
carrey

3502
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:22,479
in describing the two kodachrome slides

3503
02:28:27,590 --> 02:28:24,640
last fall

3504
02:28:30,070 --> 02:28:27,600
said they were supposed to be insect

3505
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:35,190
hmm

3506
02:28:35,200 --> 02:28:38,790
exactly i mean there's no

3507
02:28:43,190 --> 02:28:40,710
time me doesn't know about that either

3508
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:43,200
but certainly through history there have

3509
02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:44,960
been descriptions of

3510
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:47,040
something that was insect-like

3511
02:28:51,670 --> 02:28:49,359
so who knows why

3512
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:51,680
that's out there yeah that's interesting

3513
02:28:55,590 --> 02:28:53,520
that's interesting

3514
02:28:57,510 --> 02:28:55,600
check this out uh uh let me get to

3515
02:29:00,150 --> 02:28:57,520
another question real quick

3516
02:29:02,389 --> 02:29:00,160
uh i'm looking at the studio clock and

3517
02:29:04,309 --> 02:29:02,399
can you give me another 15 minutes linda

3518
02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:04,319
just 15. okay good

3519
02:29:09,590 --> 02:29:06,640
this is from allison bell actually she's

3520
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:09,600
going after the dragonfly drones here

3521
02:29:13,670 --> 02:29:12,800
she says is there any is is any more

3522
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:13,680
info

3523
02:29:19,110 --> 02:29:16,240
that has been gathered about carrot

3524
02:29:22,389 --> 02:29:19,120
ask her if she thinks the language

3525
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:22,399
itself is responsible for the anti-grav

3526
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:25,680
effects wow see we have a smart audience

3527
02:29:30,230 --> 02:29:27,680
that's a great question

3528
02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:30,240
absolutely uh

3529
02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:33,040
i produced this fall it came out in

3530
02:29:38,469 --> 02:29:37,600
december a new dvd it's 55 minutes long

3531
02:29:40,070 --> 02:29:38,479
and

3532
02:29:43,910 --> 02:29:40,080
my title is

3533
02:29:45,670 --> 02:29:43,920
10 000 bc go beckley tepe which is 12

3534
02:29:48,070 --> 02:29:45,680
000 years ago

3535
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:48,080
ancient stone circles

3536
02:29:53,349 --> 02:29:50,000
hyphen et e.t

3537
02:29:57,910 --> 02:29:53,359
engineering or terraforming so

3538
02:29:59,309 --> 02:29:57,920
the in this 55-minute dvd which you can

3539
02:30:01,750 --> 02:29:59,319
all go to

3540
02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:01,760
earthfiles.com and take a look at it in

3541
02:30:06,790 --> 02:30:04,960
the earth file shop what i wanted to try

3542
02:30:08,150 --> 02:30:06,800
to do was to

3543
02:30:11,270 --> 02:30:08,160
bring together

3544
02:30:12,070 --> 02:30:11,280
these various threads of what i think

3545
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:12,080
are

3546
02:30:16,230 --> 02:30:13,680
really important

3547
02:30:19,429 --> 02:30:16,240
pieces in the last five or seven years

3548
02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:19,439
of which i think the dragonfly drone

3549
02:30:24,550 --> 02:30:22,080
is one of the most important and it was

3550
02:30:27,349 --> 02:30:24,560
one of those subjects that was attacked

3551
02:30:30,150 --> 02:30:27,359
uh and and yet

3552
02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:30,160
i and others who talked with people who

3553
02:30:35,990 --> 02:30:34,240
had inside information or had seen them

3554
02:30:37,830 --> 02:30:36,000
came away with

3555
02:30:39,830 --> 02:30:37,840
this impression that we were dealing

3556
02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:39,840
with a real phenomena in the sky that

3557
02:30:45,750 --> 02:30:42,640
was flickering in and out as if there

3558
02:30:48,230 --> 02:30:45,760
was a technology of invisibility or

3559
02:30:50,550 --> 02:30:48,240
visibility that was being jammed or

3560
02:30:52,150 --> 02:30:50,560
affected and that maybe these things

3561
02:30:54,790 --> 02:30:52,160
were in the sky

3562
02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:54,800
a lot and suddenly they were revealed in

3563
02:30:59,910 --> 02:30:57,280
the summer of 2007 and

3564
02:31:02,230 --> 02:30:59,920
for those listening who would like to

3565
02:31:05,710 --> 02:31:02,240
know the whole story if you i think i've

3566
02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:05,720
done 30 uh earth files reports between

3567
02:31:12,469 --> 02:31:09,280
2007 and 2008 with literally dozens of

3568
02:31:15,429 --> 02:31:12,479
photographs uh i think i'd had done 28

3569
02:31:16,550 --> 02:31:15,439
interviews there's a lot in in earth

3570
02:31:17,429 --> 02:31:16,560
files

3571
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:17,439
but

3572
02:31:22,950 --> 02:31:20,080
coming to the heart of this issue

3573
02:31:24,550 --> 02:31:22,960
about the symbols

3574
02:31:27,110 --> 02:31:24,560
it was

3575
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:27,120
on the underneath we called them the

3576
02:31:33,190 --> 02:31:30,720
tales of the dragonfly drones

3577
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:33,200
that there were symbols in some of the

3578
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:34,960
photos

3579
02:31:39,349 --> 02:31:38,000
and eventually a man who called himself

3580
02:31:42,469 --> 02:31:39,359
isaac

3581
02:31:45,030 --> 02:31:42,479
came forward and communicated with me

3582
02:31:46,469 --> 02:31:45,040
and communicated with lex at the coast

3583
02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:46,479
website

3584
02:31:51,750 --> 02:31:47,600
and

3585
02:31:54,870 --> 02:31:51,760
put out this these documents with images

3586
02:31:59,349 --> 02:31:54,880
and the the whole thing boils down to

3587
02:32:00,870 --> 02:31:59,359
self activating software

3588
02:32:03,590 --> 02:32:00,880
for self

3589
02:32:05,670 --> 02:32:03,600
activating machines

3590
02:32:07,990 --> 02:32:05,680
and the concept

3591
02:32:11,270 --> 02:32:08,000
of the self activating software which i

3592
02:32:13,510 --> 02:32:11,280
go into in huge depth in this dvd that's

3593
02:32:16,790 --> 02:32:13,520
why i brought up the dvd

3594
02:32:19,670 --> 02:32:16,800
it's something that you can go in and i

3595
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:19,680
think begin to understand this complex

3596
02:32:23,830 --> 02:32:21,600
idea and right now i'll just try to

3597
02:32:26,550 --> 02:32:23,840
explain it this way

3598
02:32:28,309 --> 02:32:26,560
in one of the email communications early

3599
02:32:30,550 --> 02:32:28,319
on with isaac

3600
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:30,560
from me to him and back

3601
02:32:37,750 --> 02:32:34,720
i was asking him to try to explain to me

3602
02:32:42,230 --> 02:32:37,760
how the symbols on the extraterrestrial

3603
02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:42,240
technology and all of those diagrams

3604
02:32:47,590 --> 02:32:45,280
could do work meaning how does how does

3605
02:32:50,230 --> 02:32:47,600
it function

3606
02:32:51,429 --> 02:32:50,240
and he said

3607
02:32:53,429 --> 02:32:51,439
try

3608
02:32:56,309 --> 02:32:53,439
to use a metaphor

3609
02:32:59,910 --> 02:32:56,319
that self-activating software in our

3610
02:33:00,950 --> 02:32:59,920
world might be something like this

3611
02:33:06,870 --> 02:33:00,960
that

3612
02:33:09,110 --> 02:33:06,880
mind could interact once these

3613
02:33:11,590 --> 02:33:09,120
self-activating software

3614
02:33:12,710 --> 02:33:11,600
that makes self-activating hardware are

3615
02:33:15,270 --> 02:33:12,720
created

3616
02:33:18,790 --> 02:33:15,280
the mind alone

3617
02:33:22,950 --> 02:33:18,800
perhaps generating a very specific field

3618
02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:22,960
we're back into resonance frequencies

3619
02:33:28,870 --> 02:33:26,720
and that once the field is generated

3620
02:33:30,469 --> 02:33:28,880
let's say that it's an eight and a half

3621
02:33:34,870 --> 02:33:30,479
by 11 inch

3622
02:33:37,510 --> 02:33:34,880
white blank piece of stationary paper

3623
02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:37,520
and i could look at that

3624
02:33:43,270 --> 02:33:40,000
paper that has the

3625
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:43,280
software the symbols the mathematical

3626
02:33:49,349 --> 02:33:45,920
language of all of the symbols

3627
02:33:51,750 --> 02:33:49,359
embedded in it you and i might not see

3628
02:33:54,790 --> 02:33:51,760
anything but it's embedded the same

3629
02:33:57,030 --> 02:33:54,800
thing that are drawn in those diagrams

3630
02:33:59,670 --> 02:33:57,040
or a mathematical language that can be

3631
02:34:02,710 --> 02:33:59,680
embedded in that piece of paper

3632
02:34:05,750 --> 02:34:02,720
and i look at it in that field and the

3633
02:34:08,230 --> 02:34:05,760
paper will automatically know

3634
02:34:09,990 --> 02:34:08,240
from the thought in the mind

3635
02:34:12,389 --> 02:34:10,000
and it has the program

3636
02:34:14,870 --> 02:34:12,399
it will seek out the person

3637
02:34:17,510 --> 02:34:14,880
that i want to communicate to it will

3638
02:34:18,710 --> 02:34:17,520
put all of the thoughts on the news on

3639
02:34:21,910 --> 02:34:18,720
the paper

3640
02:34:22,870 --> 02:34:21,920
uh i generating this i don't have to do

3641
02:34:24,389 --> 02:34:22,880
anything

3642
02:34:26,309 --> 02:34:24,399
the paper

3643
02:34:28,309 --> 02:34:26,319
takes over

3644
02:34:32,870 --> 02:34:28,319
creates the text

3645
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:32,880
does the dating moves through the air or

3646
02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:34,240
jump cuts

3647
02:34:38,469 --> 02:34:37,359
to whoever is to receive

3648
02:34:40,950 --> 02:34:38,479
weights

3649
02:34:42,230 --> 02:34:40,960
generates a reply

3650
02:34:43,750 --> 02:34:42,240
jump cuts

3651
02:34:44,870 --> 02:34:43,760
back to

3652
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:44,880
me

3653
02:34:48,630 --> 02:34:47,359
and i didn't have to do anything but

3654
02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:48,640
think

3655
02:34:53,510 --> 02:34:51,520
in the field and the paper could do all

3656
02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:53,520
the rest that self

3657
02:34:59,750 --> 02:34:57,120
activating software built in self

3658
02:35:02,469 --> 02:34:59,760
activating technology

3659
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:02,479
and when you go into the carrot

3660
02:35:07,590 --> 02:35:06,399
documents which i do in this dvd and in

3661
02:35:09,510 --> 02:35:07,600
these uh

3662
02:35:12,710 --> 02:35:09,520
more than two dozen reports i've done at

3663
02:35:13,990 --> 02:35:12,720
earth files i've gone into the carrot

3664
02:35:16,309 --> 02:35:14,000
document

3665
02:35:18,150 --> 02:35:16,319
in a lot of depth because i am

3666
02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:18,160
personally convinced

3667
02:35:22,469 --> 02:35:20,560
that it's a real document

3668
02:35:23,830 --> 02:35:22,479
and that the

3669
02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:23,840
photographs

3670
02:35:29,750 --> 02:35:26,640
are of extraterrestrial technology as

3671
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:29,760
isaac described and that when we come to

3672
02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:32,640
the whole area when i was talking about

3673
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:35,040
were they drones were they unmanned

3674
02:35:40,790 --> 02:35:37,840
drones in some of the cases that we

3675
02:35:43,429 --> 02:35:40,800
brought down with microwave and then in

3676
02:35:45,030 --> 02:35:43,439
others we would bring down a craft and

3677
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:45,040
it would have something in that was

3678
02:35:49,349 --> 02:35:46,960
clearly they look like clones and they

3679
02:35:52,630 --> 02:35:49,359
were all the same and then something

3680
02:35:54,710 --> 02:35:52,640
else uh it comes down and we are dealing

3681
02:35:57,510 --> 02:35:54,720
with a different type

3682
02:36:02,230 --> 02:35:57,520
that's where the self activating

3683
02:36:03,750 --> 02:36:02,240
software in self activating hardware

3684
02:36:06,150 --> 02:36:03,760
would apply

3685
02:36:08,550 --> 02:36:06,160
to the drone concept

3686
02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:08,560
and in fact jumping back to our

3687
02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:09,840
bedwaters

3688
02:36:14,870 --> 02:36:12,399
when jim penniston was in randallstrom

3689
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:14,880
forest and was dragging his fingers

3690
02:36:19,429 --> 02:36:18,479
around on that somewhat warmer black

3691
02:36:21,750 --> 02:36:19,439
glass

3692
02:36:25,030 --> 02:36:21,760
that had lights inside of it he could

3693
02:36:27,510 --> 02:36:25,040
see lights moving underneath the surface

3694
02:36:29,349 --> 02:36:27,520
and he gets to those symbols

3695
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:29,359
those are symbols

3696
02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:31,200
and they were raised

3697
02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:33,200
above the surface

3698
02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:35,520
and when his fingers touched those

3699
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:37,040
symbols

3700
02:36:42,230 --> 02:36:39,280
that's when he got the download of the

3701
02:36:43,990 --> 02:36:42,240
binary code and the telepathic thought

3702
02:36:44,950 --> 02:36:44,000
this had something to do

3703
02:36:46,070 --> 02:36:44,960
with

3704
02:36:48,309 --> 02:36:46,080
future

3705
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:48,319
and time travel and something very

3706
02:36:53,950 --> 02:36:50,560
complex

3707
02:36:55,830 --> 02:36:53,960
that relationship then between

3708
02:36:57,429 --> 02:36:55,840
geometries

3709
02:37:00,150 --> 02:36:57,439
patterns

3710
02:37:02,830 --> 02:37:00,160
mathematical language that can be

3711
02:37:07,510 --> 02:37:02,840
superimposed into and

3712
02:37:10,150 --> 02:37:07,520
on surfaces or inside of structures

3713
02:37:11,990 --> 02:37:10,160
that in a certain field that's a key the

3714
02:37:14,389 --> 02:37:12,000
field

3715
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:14,399
all it needs is to be triggered and it

3716
02:37:19,110 --> 02:37:15,280
knows

3717
02:37:19,990 --> 02:37:19,120
everything to do and that might explain

3718
02:37:21,990 --> 02:37:20,000
why

3719
02:37:23,750 --> 02:37:22,000
jim penniston

3720
02:37:25,030 --> 02:37:23,760
because we've now discussed this in

3721
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:25,040
public

3722
02:37:30,389 --> 02:37:27,520
that the binary code

3723
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:30,399
turned out to be a series of latitudes

3724
02:37:35,429 --> 02:37:32,479
and longitudes

3725
02:37:36,790 --> 02:37:35,439
and they are in various places on the

3726
02:37:39,670 --> 02:37:36,800
planet

3727
02:37:41,670 --> 02:37:39,680
it could be argued that if it is a

3728
02:37:43,110 --> 02:37:41,680
self-activating

3729
02:37:44,710 --> 02:37:43,120
software

3730
02:37:47,349 --> 02:37:44,720
machine

3731
02:37:49,990 --> 02:37:47,359
it doesn't need the prime intelligence

3732
02:37:52,790 --> 02:37:50,000
to be in it or around it

3733
02:37:54,150 --> 02:37:52,800
it can move through time it can move

3734
02:37:56,469 --> 02:37:54,160
through space

3735
02:37:58,710 --> 02:37:56,479
it does all of the work that it's

3736
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:58,720
programmed to do

3737
02:38:02,150 --> 02:38:01,040
and that the very fact that it would

3738
02:38:03,190 --> 02:38:02,160
have

3739
02:38:04,550 --> 02:38:03,200
or

3740
02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:04,560
give

3741
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:07,040
the human mind that was nearby a

3742
02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:09,520
download of binary code

3743
02:38:13,110 --> 02:38:11,760
it could be argued that the binary code

3744
02:38:15,349 --> 02:38:13,120
related

3745
02:38:17,670 --> 02:38:15,359
to the work assignments

3746
02:38:19,990 --> 02:38:17,680
of uploading and downloading what this

3747
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:20,000
machine was doing

3748
02:38:24,870 --> 02:38:22,960
in its mission to go to these different

3749
02:38:27,510 --> 02:38:24,880
places on the planet

3750
02:38:30,469 --> 02:38:27,520
we don't know that speculation but

3751
02:38:32,550 --> 02:38:30,479
latitudes and longitudes

3752
02:38:35,190 --> 02:38:32,560
make sense

3753
02:38:38,870 --> 02:38:35,200
that androids from someplace else just

3754
02:38:42,630 --> 02:38:38,880
like we have curiosity on mars now

3755
02:38:45,270 --> 02:38:42,640
that relating to the latitude longitude

3756
02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:45,280
grid of this planet or wherever there

3757
02:38:48,309 --> 02:38:47,200
would be exploration makes a lot of

3758
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:48,319
sense

3759
02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:51,439
and that is the download that pedestrian

3760
02:38:54,469 --> 02:38:52,240
got

3761
02:38:56,550 --> 02:38:54,479
that would be from my point of view that

3762
02:38:58,389 --> 02:38:56,560
would be just like isaac was trying to

3763
02:39:00,469 --> 02:38:58,399
describe in the carrot document about

3764
02:39:01,429 --> 02:39:00,479
the dragonfly drones

3765
02:39:04,309 --> 02:39:01,439
so

3766
02:39:06,309 --> 02:39:04,319
the symbols on the tails

3767
02:39:09,110 --> 02:39:06,319
were part of the self-activating

3768
02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:09,120
software on those strange machines

3769
02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:12,479
in the air that could produce

3770
02:39:17,270 --> 02:39:15,040
uh neutralized gravity these this is

3771
02:39:18,550 --> 02:39:17,280
what the document said neutralize

3772
02:39:21,270 --> 02:39:18,560
gravity

3773
02:39:24,070 --> 02:39:21,280
create invisibility and that that the

3774
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:24,080
machines usually were invisible unless

3775
02:39:29,990 --> 02:39:27,040
the frequency was jammed and then they

3776
02:39:32,469 --> 02:39:30,000
would flicker in and out of visibility

3777
02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:32,479
and uh let's see and the third is

3778
02:39:34,870 --> 02:39:33,760
gravity

3779
02:39:39,590 --> 02:39:34,880
oh

3780
02:39:42,230 --> 02:39:39,600
projecting three dimensional holograms

3781
02:39:44,070 --> 02:39:42,240
that humans would not be able to

3782
02:39:46,070 --> 02:39:44,080
distinguish

3783
02:39:47,190 --> 02:39:46,080
from the environment of the world we're

3784
02:39:48,710 --> 02:39:47,200
living in

3785
02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:48,720
that has come up

3786
02:39:52,790 --> 02:39:51,040
so often in

3787
02:39:54,550 --> 02:39:52,800
animal mutilations or the human

3788
02:39:56,790 --> 02:39:54,560
abduction syndrome

3789
02:40:00,150 --> 02:39:56,800
where people have seen

3790
02:40:02,870 --> 02:40:00,160
something in let's say a an event that

3791
02:40:05,190 --> 02:40:02,880
involved involve phenomena and they

3792
02:40:09,030 --> 02:40:05,200
swear up and down

3793
02:40:11,190 --> 02:40:09,040
there was this red square sign in the

3794
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:11,200
trees this really happened in elizabeth

3795
02:40:16,150 --> 02:40:13,600
colorado i'll never forget it right and

3796
02:40:18,710 --> 02:40:16,160
uh the deputy took me out there with my

3797
02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:18,720
tv crew so i could see where they had

3798
02:40:22,389 --> 02:40:21,040
seen a red glowing

3799
02:40:24,309 --> 02:40:22,399
square

3800
02:40:25,910 --> 02:40:24,319
in trees

3801
02:40:27,270 --> 02:40:25,920
on a road

3802
02:40:31,110 --> 02:40:27,280
where a

3803
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:31,120
uh orange fiery sphere

3804
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:34,720
came lickety-split at a rapid space

3805
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:37,920
rapid pace right to their police or it

3806
02:40:41,030 --> 02:40:40,240
was a deputy sheriff's car

3807
02:40:42,950 --> 02:40:41,040
and

3808
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:42,960
the two deputies

3809
02:40:49,270 --> 02:40:45,520
thought they were on a collision course

3810
02:40:50,630 --> 02:40:49,280
they the one deputy uh bill was driving

3811
02:40:54,070 --> 02:40:50,640
that car

3812
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:54,080
he hit the brake with his foot

3813
02:41:00,150 --> 02:40:56,880
screaming at the other deputy roll

3814
02:41:02,150 --> 02:41:00,160
they both hit their doors

3815
02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:02,160
rolled out in the ground but he had

3816
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:04,319
tried to hit the brake

3817
02:41:08,150 --> 02:41:06,640
before they rolled so that the car would

3818
02:41:11,110 --> 02:41:08,160
slow down

3819
02:41:13,510 --> 02:41:11,120
and they are rolling on their backs on

3820
02:41:15,429 --> 02:41:13,520
the ground and bill law the deputy is

3821
02:41:18,550 --> 02:41:15,439
looking and seeing this

3822
02:41:20,469 --> 02:41:18,560
large uh orange sphere

3823
02:41:21,910 --> 02:41:20,479
coming right at their car

3824
02:41:25,030 --> 02:41:21,920
and where they thought it was going to

3825
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:25,040
be a collision explosion the end of

3826
02:41:29,030 --> 02:41:28,000
their lives this thing did a 90 degree

3827
02:41:32,870 --> 02:41:29,040
turn

3828
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:32,880
right at the windshield of the car that

3829
02:41:35,190 --> 02:41:34,000
was still

3830
02:41:38,150 --> 02:41:35,200
rolling

3831
02:41:39,349 --> 02:41:38,160
so it had the ability to do a 90 degree

3832
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:39,359
turn

3833
02:41:45,349 --> 02:41:41,840
at something moving toward it while it

3834
02:41:46,309 --> 02:41:45,359
moved toward and went off right well

3835
02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:46,319
when they

3836
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:47,120
uh

3837
02:41:51,349 --> 02:41:50,240
they then also saw this red pulsing

3838
02:41:53,270 --> 02:41:51,359
square

3839
02:41:56,070 --> 02:41:53,280
in the forest

3840
02:41:59,510 --> 02:41:56,080
along the road where this occurred

3841
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:59,520
they were so scared a deputy told me he

3842
02:42:02,790 --> 02:42:00,560
said we

3843
02:42:04,710 --> 02:42:02,800
we just couldn't go any further we were

3844
02:42:06,950 --> 02:42:04,720
out investigating animal mutilations

3845
02:42:08,710 --> 02:42:06,960
this happened and we both said let's go

3846
02:42:10,309 --> 02:42:08,720
back to the sheriff's office and go home

3847
02:42:13,429 --> 02:42:10,319
and sleep

3848
02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:13,439
in the morning yeah after the sun came

3849
02:42:17,030 --> 02:42:14,560
up

3850
02:42:19,990 --> 02:42:17,040
they went back out

3851
02:42:21,670 --> 02:42:20,000
there are the prints of their bodies in

3852
02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:21,680
because a lot of those roads were just

3853
02:42:28,389 --> 02:42:24,560
dirt no asphalt fault no rocks no it's

3854
02:42:30,150 --> 02:42:28,399
just dirt sure so dusty dirt and they

3855
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:30,160
could see where their bodies had rolled

3856
02:42:34,389 --> 02:42:31,120
the car

3857
02:42:37,750 --> 02:42:34,399
the everything the tire tracks uh where

3858
02:42:39,429 --> 02:42:37,760
it came to a stop everything is there

3859
02:42:43,349 --> 02:42:39,439
and bill

3860
02:42:47,830 --> 02:42:44,630
we both

3861
02:42:49,349 --> 02:42:47,840
seem to see at the same time

3862
02:42:51,590 --> 02:42:49,359
where

3863
02:42:55,270 --> 02:42:51,600
is the forest

3864
02:42:57,750 --> 02:42:55,280
where is the red pulsing square

3865
02:42:58,870 --> 02:42:57,760
they both remembered it they both were

3866
02:43:03,590 --> 02:42:58,880
shocked

3867
02:43:09,110 --> 02:43:06,710
really really was free not not any it's

3868
02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:09,120
flat flat prairie land

3869
02:43:13,349 --> 02:43:10,880
and they both

3870
02:43:15,990 --> 02:43:13,359
both they they told each other there was

3871
02:43:18,150 --> 02:43:16,000
a forest there and we saw that red

3872
02:43:20,710 --> 02:43:18,160
pulsing square light well

3873
02:43:22,790 --> 02:43:20,720
that to me is one of the classic

3874
02:43:24,630 --> 02:43:22,800
examples that you run into

3875
02:43:27,030 --> 02:43:24,640
in the human abduction syndrome and the

3876
02:43:29,030 --> 02:43:27,040
high strangeness of this phenomena the

3877
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:29,040
ability to project

3878
02:43:32,790 --> 02:43:31,680
three-dimensional holograms for reasons

3879
02:43:34,550 --> 02:43:32,800
unknown

3880
02:43:38,550 --> 02:43:34,560
and that would have been a classic

3881
02:43:42,870 --> 02:43:38,560
example and that's what a deputy sheriff

3882
02:43:44,630 --> 02:43:42,880
in uh elizabeth colorado uh told me and

3883
02:43:47,750 --> 02:43:44,640
the crew when we were working on a

3884
02:43:49,510 --> 02:43:47,760
strange harvest in 79 to 80.

3885
02:43:52,230 --> 02:43:49,520
it must have been difficult for him to

3886
02:43:53,990 --> 02:43:52,240
even get that story out without you know

3887
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:54,000
you know the fear of just dude you're

3888
02:43:58,630 --> 02:43:56,240
out of control you know

3889
02:44:01,990 --> 02:43:58,640
that that's what you know what i mean

3890
02:44:06,150 --> 02:44:03,910
i wanted to say this about the dragonfly

3891
02:44:08,309 --> 02:44:06,160
drones really quick that when you

3892
02:44:09,990 --> 02:44:08,319
uh and i and you are going to come back

3893
02:44:12,150 --> 02:44:10,000
and we are going to do a show on

3894
02:44:13,670 --> 02:44:12,160
dragonfly drones and i don't want to

3895
02:44:14,469 --> 02:44:13,680
talk about too much of it but the one

3896
02:44:17,349 --> 02:44:14,479
thing

3897
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:17,359
that when i first uh started reading all

3898
02:44:22,870 --> 02:44:20,160
of your reports on earth files years ago

3899
02:44:23,750 --> 02:44:22,880
and looking at the images the one thing

3900
02:44:26,309 --> 02:44:23,760
that

3901
02:44:28,870 --> 02:44:26,319
stood out for me on all of this is it

3902
02:44:30,469 --> 02:44:28,880
doesn't fit the paradigm

3903
02:44:33,990 --> 02:44:30,479
none of the images

3904
02:44:36,550 --> 02:44:34,000
fit into what we are expecting to see

3905
02:44:39,429 --> 02:44:36,560
not not i mean not even the slightest

3906
02:44:41,269 --> 02:44:39,439
uh bit of any of the uh part of the

3907
02:44:43,750 --> 02:44:41,279
drone that you can look at looks like

3908
02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:43,760
something that we would be familiar with

3909
02:44:49,269 --> 02:44:46,720
it is completely foreign top to bottom

3910
02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:49,279
front to back up and down inside and out

3911
02:44:54,710 --> 02:44:51,920
everything about the dragonfly drones

3912
02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:54,720
doesn't doesn't fit uh anything that we

3913
02:45:00,550 --> 02:44:58,000
can uh uh be familiar with and is it did

3914
02:45:03,030 --> 02:45:00,560
that hit you the same way as it did me

3915
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:03,040
the very first image

3916
02:45:05,910 --> 02:45:04,319
that i saw

3917
02:45:08,630 --> 02:45:05,920
on the web

3918
02:45:11,110 --> 02:45:08,640
uh and and then the second and then the

3919
02:45:13,349 --> 02:45:11,120
chad it they all hit me the same way

3920
02:45:14,550 --> 02:45:13,359
this is an alien

3921
02:45:17,190 --> 02:45:14,560
machine

3922
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:17,200
and that if it has

3923
02:45:23,590 --> 02:45:19,760
uh if we knew the truth

3924
02:45:24,870 --> 02:45:23,600
that for centuries thousands millions of

3925
02:45:26,389 --> 02:45:24,880
years

3926
02:45:29,190 --> 02:45:26,399
that we have been dealing with what

3927
02:45:32,790 --> 02:45:29,200
michio kaku would call civilization

3928
02:45:33,670 --> 02:45:32,800
threes and fours right it can

3929
02:45:34,389 --> 02:45:33,680
go

3930
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:34,399
to

3931
02:45:39,030 --> 02:45:38,080
various solar systems in the beginning

3932
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:39,040
can

3933
02:45:44,150 --> 02:45:40,880
feed life

3934
02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:44,160
that is an old concept now panspermia

3935
02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:47,040
right deliberately seated dna

3936
02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:48,640
and have

3937
02:45:55,750 --> 02:45:54,070
creature machines

3938
02:45:57,349 --> 02:45:55,760
i'm thinking of the praying mantis

3939
02:45:59,990 --> 02:45:57,359
because this comes up so much in the

3940
02:46:02,309 --> 02:46:00,000
human abduction syndrome so thinking of

3941
02:46:06,790 --> 02:46:02,319
the praying mantis and how many

3942
02:46:09,349 --> 02:46:06,800
abductees have said it is so ancient

3943
02:46:10,630 --> 02:46:09,359
it's staring at me it knows everything

3944
02:46:13,830 --> 02:46:10,640
about me

3945
02:46:17,990 --> 02:46:13,840
it knows everything about this planet it

3946
02:46:19,269 --> 02:46:18,000
knows everything about this solar system

3947
02:46:21,190 --> 02:46:19,279
this

3948
02:46:23,349 --> 02:46:21,200
is something

3949
02:46:26,870 --> 02:46:23,359
that has a job

3950
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:26,880
to monitor the evolution of life in this

3951
02:46:32,389 --> 02:46:29,680
solar system well this solar system is

3952
02:46:35,190 --> 02:46:32,399
four and a half billion years old

3953
02:46:38,630 --> 02:46:35,200
we can't even begin to wrap our minds

3954
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:38,640
around the concept of anything that in

3955
02:46:43,110 --> 02:46:40,880
what we call time

3956
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:43,120
linear time on earth

3957
02:46:48,550 --> 02:46:46,960
could be some kind of a conscious

3958
02:46:51,510 --> 02:46:48,560
entity that could

3959
02:46:54,469 --> 02:46:51,520
be four and a half billion years old and

3960
02:46:58,309 --> 02:46:54,479
its job was to monitor and feed solar

3961
02:46:59,990 --> 02:46:58,319
systems and yet that concept comes up

3962
02:47:01,190 --> 02:47:00,000
and it may be

3963
02:47:03,429 --> 02:47:01,200
that

3964
02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:03,439
the people in the human abduction

3965
02:47:07,670 --> 02:47:04,720
syndrome

3966
02:47:11,429 --> 02:47:07,680
get the impressions telepathically and

3967
02:47:14,630 --> 02:47:11,439
maybe what is missing in the equation is

3968
02:47:15,750 --> 02:47:14,640
these praying mantises may be exactly

3969
02:47:17,110 --> 02:47:15,760
that

3970
02:47:21,030 --> 02:47:17,120
cedars

3971
02:47:22,950 --> 02:47:21,040
and monitors but that they go in and out

3972
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:22,960
of timelines

3973
02:47:27,190 --> 02:47:26,080
that they go in and out of the speed of

3974
02:47:29,750 --> 02:47:27,200
light

3975
02:47:32,950 --> 02:47:29,760
so that they are actually moving

3976
02:47:36,150 --> 02:47:32,960
timelines they are actually moving

3977
02:47:39,349 --> 02:47:36,160
dimensions and that that's how

3978
02:47:42,150 --> 02:47:39,359
it the words now become very difficult

3979
02:47:43,670 --> 02:47:42,160
to say but interstellar did a very good

3980
02:47:46,150 --> 02:47:43,680
job on this

3981
02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:46,160
yeah what what is so hard what is so

3982
02:47:51,190 --> 02:47:48,720
hard to grasp about that what is that

3983
02:47:52,790 --> 02:47:51,200
what is so foreign to us

3984
02:47:54,630 --> 02:47:52,800
linda linda

3985
02:47:57,269 --> 02:47:54,640
you know something a billion years older

3986
02:47:59,750 --> 02:47:57,279
than us a billion years ten thousand

3987
02:48:02,710 --> 02:47:59,760
years smarter than us what do you think

3988
02:48:05,990 --> 02:48:02,720
they're doing number one number two

3989
02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:06,000
ten thousand years from now a thousand

3990
02:48:10,950 --> 02:48:08,240
years from now here on planet earth what

3991
02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:10,960
do you think we're going to be doing

3992
02:48:15,670 --> 02:48:13,600
why is it such a hard concept to grasp

3993
02:48:18,230 --> 02:48:15,680
and wrap your mind around i i just don't

3994
02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:18,240
get it we need more of you is what we

3995
02:48:22,389 --> 02:48:19,520
need

3996
02:48:24,870 --> 02:48:22,399
well i think we should all be having

3997
02:48:27,670 --> 02:48:24,880
these discussions on the six o'clock

3998
02:48:29,510 --> 02:48:27,680
news i think this is the most exciting

3999
02:48:33,110 --> 02:48:29,520
thing about this

4000
02:48:36,230 --> 02:48:33,120
the huge cosmos that we are in and that

4001
02:48:38,870 --> 02:48:36,240
we have had touches of other life and

4002
02:48:41,990 --> 02:48:38,880
intelligences that may have

4003
02:48:44,870 --> 02:48:42,000
their own survival problems

4004
02:48:46,870 --> 02:48:44,880
that is a big part of the subject in a

4005
02:48:48,389 --> 02:48:46,880
lot of the human abduction stories and

4006
02:48:49,750 --> 02:48:48,399
it certainly comes up in animal

4007
02:48:50,870 --> 02:48:49,760
mutilations

4008
02:48:51,750 --> 02:48:50,880
that

4009
02:48:54,710 --> 02:48:51,760
some

4010
02:48:56,950 --> 02:48:54,720
may have other agendas but that a lot of

4011
02:48:58,870 --> 02:48:56,960
this may have to do

4012
02:49:02,389 --> 02:48:58,880
with survival

4013
02:49:04,309 --> 02:49:02,399
their survival our survival we're in a

4014
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:04,319
universe in which

4015
02:49:10,389 --> 02:49:07,040
the planets that you can live on and

4016
02:49:11,269 --> 02:49:10,399
survive and thrive and evolve

4017
02:49:14,309 --> 02:49:11,279
may

4018
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:14,319
be few and far between in terms of the

4019
02:49:19,510 --> 02:49:17,200
perfect goldilocks although right now

4020
02:49:21,910 --> 02:49:19,520
after all of the headlines in just the

4021
02:49:24,230 --> 02:49:21,920
last 12 months about the increasing

4022
02:49:27,750 --> 02:49:24,240
number of goldilocks planets meaning not

4023
02:49:30,150 --> 02:49:27,760
too cold not too hot right despite

4024
02:49:31,349 --> 02:49:30,160
if there are that many as it's being

4025
02:49:33,349 --> 02:49:31,359
reported

4026
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:33,359
well there might be

4027
02:49:35,830 --> 02:49:34,240
life

4028
02:49:36,710 --> 02:49:35,840
all over the place

4029
02:49:40,950 --> 02:49:36,720
and

4030
02:49:43,429 --> 02:49:40,960
exciting

4031
02:49:45,190 --> 02:49:43,439
we are in the century

4032
02:49:48,230 --> 02:49:45,200
when all of this

4033
02:49:51,110 --> 02:49:48,240
might crack open and we will get past

4034
02:49:54,630 --> 02:49:51,120
being on a concocted planet and we will

4035
02:49:57,990 --> 02:49:54,640
be where we are all more on the same

4036
02:50:01,030 --> 02:49:58,000
square of looking back and saying okay

4037
02:50:03,670 --> 02:50:01,040
this history was concocted let's start

4038
02:50:07,830 --> 02:50:03,680
with the truth and our relationship with

4039
02:50:10,550 --> 02:50:07,840
the universe and let's go forward now

4040
02:50:12,550 --> 02:50:10,560
learning and needing what else is out

4041
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:12,560
there and if the governments have

4042
02:50:15,429 --> 02:50:14,560
something that they're seriously worried

4043
02:50:17,429 --> 02:50:15,439
about

4044
02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:17,439
as some kind of a threat

4045
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:18,720
i think

4046
02:50:27,990 --> 02:50:25,359
are stronger not weaker

4047
02:50:30,950 --> 02:50:28,000
one last question and this is a fun one

4048
02:50:33,269 --> 02:50:30,960
this is from dennis he says does linda

4049
02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:33,279
still spread out her reference papers

4050
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:35,920
around her in a circle on the floor and

4051
02:50:40,469 --> 02:50:38,319
she's sitting on the floor right now

4052
02:50:43,590 --> 02:50:40,479
well you know

4053
02:50:46,309 --> 02:50:43,600
i do and i don't

4054
02:50:50,710 --> 02:50:46,319
when i'm doing uh let's say uh three

4055
02:50:54,870 --> 02:50:50,720
hours of coast i have uh each half hour

4056
02:50:56,870 --> 02:50:54,880
is in stacks now so i have four stacks

4057
02:51:00,469 --> 02:50:56,880
and i go through each

4058
02:51:03,750 --> 02:51:00,479
stack and uh they're in a line and

4059
02:51:06,790 --> 02:51:03,760
so it's uh one line of stacks

4060
02:51:09,830 --> 02:51:06,800
all right that's that but

4061
02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:09,840
it to do this work

4062
02:51:14,950 --> 02:51:13,200
all of the time you just can't imagine

4063
02:51:15,750 --> 02:51:14,960
every house i've ever been has been like

4064
02:51:17,830 --> 02:51:15,760
this

4065
02:51:19,510 --> 02:51:17,840
i have papers

4066
02:51:21,750 --> 02:51:19,520
because i like to look at things

4067
02:51:24,230 --> 02:51:21,760
chronologically i like to look at

4068
02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:24,240
timelines and whether you're going back

4069
02:51:29,429 --> 02:51:27,279
5000 years up to the present or

4070
02:51:31,830 --> 02:51:29,439
you're looking at a decade

4071
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:31,840
i have to use the living room the

4072
02:51:34,150 --> 02:51:32,880
kitchen

4073
02:51:37,110 --> 02:51:34,160
halls

4074
02:51:39,429 --> 02:51:37,120
stairs and i do things chronologically

4075
02:51:40,790 --> 02:51:39,439
so i can get them in order and it takes

4076
02:51:44,230 --> 02:51:40,800
a lot of space

4077
02:51:47,110 --> 02:51:44,240
so it's gone from all of the rings

4078
02:51:49,510 --> 02:51:47,120
around me when i was doing uh coast to

4079
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:49,520
coast and dreamland with arbel

4080
02:51:59,670 --> 02:51:50,479
to

4081
02:52:03,670 --> 02:52:01,910
i can just picture it but i've seen i've

4082
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:03,680
seen your house in video

4083
02:52:08,469 --> 02:52:06,000
uh it's very clean and organized and

4084
02:52:10,790 --> 02:52:08,479
very contemporary are you saying that's

4085
02:52:12,870 --> 02:52:10,800
done for the cameras then

4086
02:52:15,349 --> 02:52:12,880
no because you're not looking at the

4087
02:52:18,950 --> 02:52:15,359
floor the floors are usually covered

4088
02:52:20,870 --> 02:52:18,960
with stacks of paper well that's great

4089
02:52:23,590 --> 02:52:20,880
uh you know what i got to get this and

4090
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:23,600
this is uh from uh jeffrey uh a friend

4091
02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:26,560
of mine he wants to uh know what you

4092
02:52:31,590 --> 02:52:29,840
feel about uh podesta's tweet

4093
02:52:34,070 --> 02:52:31,600
i think it was one of the most

4094
02:52:37,190 --> 02:52:34,080
fascinating political statements of all

4095
02:52:40,150 --> 02:52:37,200
of 2014 to 2015

4096
02:52:43,830 --> 02:52:40,160
and the fact that john podesta has

4097
02:52:45,070 --> 02:52:43,840
been for uh at least what going back

4098
02:52:47,510 --> 02:52:45,080
to

4099
02:52:50,309 --> 02:52:47,520
2007 i think it was

4100
02:52:54,710 --> 02:52:50,319
uh that he was making statements

4101
02:52:56,790 --> 02:52:54,720
that uh clearly he was trying to get

4102
02:52:57,670 --> 02:52:56,800
somebody politically

4103
02:52:59,910 --> 02:52:57,680
to

4104
02:53:01,349 --> 02:52:59,920
state in fact what i'm doing right now

4105
02:53:03,110 --> 02:53:01,359
because i think it's important enough

4106
02:53:06,230 --> 02:53:03,120
and i have it right here

4107
02:53:08,309 --> 02:53:06,240
it's on my earth files headlines page

4108
02:53:10,710 --> 02:53:08,319
and it is uh

4109
02:53:13,670 --> 02:53:10,720
about the podesta

4110
02:53:15,670 --> 02:53:13,680
here it is um

4111
02:53:19,349 --> 02:53:15,680
john podesta

4112
02:53:22,830 --> 02:53:19,359
it's at podesta 44 that was his tweet

4113
02:53:24,790 --> 02:53:22,840
it was uh february 13th

4114
02:53:26,230 --> 02:53:24,800
2015

4115
02:53:31,590 --> 02:53:26,240
he says

4116
02:53:32,710 --> 02:53:31,600
finally my biggest failure of 2014

4117
02:53:35,830 --> 02:53:32,720
colon

4118
02:53:40,309 --> 02:53:35,840
once again not securing the disclosure

4119
02:53:43,510 --> 02:53:40,319
of the ufo files hashtag the truth is

4120
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:43,520
out still out there and he copied this

4121
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:44,960
tweet

4122
02:53:50,309 --> 02:53:48,800
to the new york times columnist maureen

4123
02:53:51,110 --> 02:53:50,319
dowd

4124
02:53:54,790 --> 02:53:51,120
well

4125
02:53:57,349 --> 02:53:54,800
when you go back it was 2002

4126
02:53:59,590 --> 02:53:57,359
john podesta the same john podesta who

4127
02:54:01,750 --> 02:53:59,600
is going to be named hillary clinton's

4128
02:54:04,389 --> 02:54:01,760
campaign manager for her second run for

4129
02:54:07,190 --> 02:54:04,399
the president same guy

4130
02:54:09,830 --> 02:54:07,200
in 2002 at a press conference that was

4131
02:54:13,750 --> 02:54:09,840
organized by the coalition for freedom

4132
02:54:15,110 --> 02:54:13,760
of information he said quote

4133
02:54:17,670 --> 02:54:15,120
john podesta

4134
02:54:19,750 --> 02:54:17,680
it's time to find out what the truth

4135
02:54:21,910 --> 02:54:19,760
really is that's out there

4136
02:54:24,630 --> 02:54:21,920
we ought to do it really because it's

4137
02:54:27,349 --> 02:54:24,640
right we ought to do it quite frankly

4138
02:54:28,550 --> 02:54:27,359
because the american people can handle

4139
02:54:29,750 --> 02:54:28,560
the truth

4140
02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:29,760
and

4141
02:54:35,269 --> 02:54:31,600
we ought to do it

4142
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:35,279
because it's the law close quote in a

4143
02:54:39,670 --> 02:54:36,640
country

4144
02:54:42,309 --> 02:54:39,680
formed of by and for the people with the

4145
02:54:46,230 --> 02:54:42,319
constitution and bill of rights

4146
02:54:49,030 --> 02:54:46,240
for 60 years to be denied the truth

4147
02:54:50,950 --> 02:54:49,040
about other life in the universe coming

4148
02:54:53,590 --> 02:54:50,960
and going here

4149
02:54:54,790 --> 02:54:53,600
i can understand why you said

4150
02:54:58,790 --> 02:54:54,800
the law

4151
02:55:00,950 --> 02:54:58,800
should give all americans the truth

4152
02:55:02,950 --> 02:55:00,960
thank you so much linda always a

4153
02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:02,960
pleasure uh

4154
02:55:06,550 --> 02:55:04,880
like i said next time around we'll just

4155
02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:06,560
uh instead of doing the show we'll just

4156
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:08,479
uh we'll stream one of our uh phone

4157
02:55:18,070 --> 02:55:10,800
conversations and we can take the night

4158
02:55:22,469 --> 02:55:19,910
yeah right exactly

4159
02:55:25,110 --> 02:55:22,479
uh it's been a real pleasure thank you

4160
02:55:27,190 --> 02:55:25,120
it's a privilege and god bless everybody

4161
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:27,200
thank you so much linda contact in the

4162
02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:29,520
desert may 29th through the 31st we're

4163
02:55:32,469 --> 02:55:31,520
going to be hanging out come on and see

4164
02:55:34,230 --> 02:55:32,479
linda

4165
02:55:35,510 --> 02:55:34,240
and hang out with us all thank you so

4166
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:35,520
much linda

4167
02:55:39,830 --> 02:55:37,520
thank you have a great night

4168
02:55:42,469 --> 02:55:39,840
you too

4169
02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:42,479
linda moulton how everybody thank you so

4170
02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:46,399
much uh i gotta say uh

4171
02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:49,040
uh she hung out uh till the to the

4172
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:50,960
bitter end tonight thank you so much

4173
02:55:56,870 --> 02:55:53,680
linda and with that i'm gonna take i

4174
02:55:58,389 --> 02:55:56,880
gotta take two give let me let me take

4175
02:56:00,469 --> 02:55:58,399
two i'll be back

4176
02:56:02,070 --> 02:56:00,479
because i gotta go number one

4177
02:56:03,590 --> 02:56:02,080
i'll be back right after this this is

4178
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:03,600
fade to black

4179
02:56:09,110 --> 02:56:05,920
on the game changer network march 9th

4180
02:56:10,389 --> 02:56:09,120
don't forget kgra in the house i'm your

4181
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:10,399
host jimmy church thank you linda i'll

4182
02:56:40,950 --> 02:56:36,710
my name is alan i listen to

4183
02:56:47,190 --> 02:56:43,670
he's always giving it to you straight

4184
02:56:56,710 --> 02:56:49,190
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

4185
02:56:56,720 --> 02:57:12,070
jimmy church radio the revolution

4186
02:57:17,110 --> 02:57:13,830
all right everybody welcome back thank

4187
02:57:18,950 --> 02:57:17,120
you linda moulton howe

4188
02:57:21,670 --> 02:57:18,960
thank you everybody listening all around

4189
02:57:23,269 --> 02:57:21,680
the world thank you fader knots

4190
02:57:24,950 --> 02:57:23,279
everybody across the united states

4191
02:57:26,550 --> 02:57:24,960
everybody that's out there freezing

4192
02:57:29,429 --> 02:57:26,560
tonight

4193
02:57:31,910 --> 02:57:29,439
you stayed in and stayed warm i think we

4194
02:57:34,630 --> 02:57:31,920
got close to a thousand uh uh in

4195
02:57:37,510 --> 02:57:34,640
spreaker tonight in the chat room over

4196
02:57:40,309 --> 02:57:37,520
on spreaker uh twitter tonight

4197
02:57:42,630 --> 02:57:40,319
unbelievable thank you everybody and

4198
02:57:44,870 --> 02:57:42,640
again uh linda moulton howell i want to

4199
02:57:47,110 --> 02:57:44,880
remind everybody that tomorrow night

4200
02:57:49,110 --> 02:57:47,120
nick pope will be joining us

4201
02:57:51,670 --> 02:57:49,120
the one and only nick what a great week

4202
02:57:55,349 --> 02:57:51,680
here on fade to black

4203
02:57:57,590 --> 02:57:55,359
and then on thursday night uh dr uh

4204
02:58:00,070 --> 02:57:57,600
robert davis will be with us fader night

4205
02:58:03,110 --> 02:58:00,080
slash dr robert davis

4206
02:58:04,870 --> 02:58:03,120
uh last night buff perry what a night

4207
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:04,880
and we did the big announcement last

4208
02:58:09,429 --> 02:58:06,880
night with a kgra

4209
02:58:11,510 --> 02:58:09,439
uh what a crazy week a wonderful week

4210
02:58:13,349 --> 02:58:11,520
that we have spent with all of you fader

4211
02:58:15,190 --> 02:58:13,359
knots thank you so much

4212
02:58:19,429 --> 02:58:15,200
and if you want to become a fate or not

4213
02:58:22,950 --> 02:58:21,670
get vetted become a friend become part

4214
02:58:25,349 --> 02:58:22,960
of the family

4215
02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:25,359
and you will become a fader not and get

4216
02:58:29,750 --> 02:58:27,439
your fader gear too by the way get your

4217
02:58:31,429 --> 02:58:29,760
uh coffee cups i'm gonna get a bunch in

4218
02:58:33,269 --> 02:58:31,439
here in the studio

4219
02:58:35,750 --> 02:58:33,279
we'll get those clanking

4220
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:35,760
and uh start giving those away too as

4221
02:58:41,110 --> 02:58:38,000
well all right so everybody

4222
02:58:42,790 --> 02:58:41,120
be safe uh tomorrow night nick pope will

4223
02:58:44,630 --> 02:58:42,800
be joining us

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i'm your host jimmy church i do want to

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thank linda moulton howe uh for another

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wonderful evening

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fade to black is produced by

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executive producers rita kamarian shows

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produced by hilton j paul mark d kovar

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lj3 renee and jonas

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announcers are steve harder gene pateau

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and mark d kovar

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fady by dale webmaster is method of

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signaling

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music is doug aldridge intro space boy

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space boy music

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fade to black happens every night with

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the help of so many so many wonderful

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people i want to thank all of you faded

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black is produced by kjcr for the game

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changer network

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tomorrow night nick pope i am your host

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jimmy church

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i want everybody to be safe